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Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

  • 1.  Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 01-08-2025 15:38

    Every 3 months Vertex is telling us it is another 3 months.  Vertex has discontinued support with the last developer maintaining the code (and I believe there was a developer before that developer).  My client is hanging on version 2021 and has started asking about moving to another solution "just in case" Vertex stops promising a solution and just doesn't.

    The client has been quoted on Avalara twice and continues to dislike the introductory pricing (so I am betting they will hate the renewal based on what I have read here).



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    Larry Bradford
    Accounting Technology LLC Consultant and Owner
    Accounting Technology, LLC
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  • 2.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 01-08-2025 19:43

    I just had a customer in the exact situation. I kept checking in with the group. The customer was reaching out to Vertex ( they report back that they were unable to obtain any update on the status of a link). This customer moved to Avalara and yes it's a more expensive solution and many more things that are frankly embarrassing. And, Larry, the best thing I can recommend is be candid with the customer face to face on what our expectations are if they go to Avalara. I also recommend negotiating a maximum first year  renewal increase.



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 3.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 02-18-2025 16:09

    Our client finally was able to talk with someone with knowledge at Vertex and Sage 100. It seems that Vertex is outsourcing the integration code and that company will be writing and maintaining the Sage 100 integrations starting with V2023 and higher. It is beta testing now and "Vertex' is expecting to be released by the end of year.



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    Michael Davis
    Warren Averett Technology Group
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  • 4.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 02-18-2025 16:53


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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 5.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 02-18-2025 16:16

    I will add that when my customer on 2021 went to Avalara and upgraded to Sage 100 2024 we left Vertex in the v2021 version and installed only Avalara into v2024. The data would migrate ( it did not prompt to reinstall Vertex ). When I got to the v2024 conversion step i went into the System installed apps where it (says it will) uninstall apps and clicked on Vertex to be removed from within Sage. This seemed to work. 

    I was not able to uninstall Vertex on the v2021 system since the customer was actively using it right up until go-live.



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 6.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 03-27-2025 16:01

    I'm hot on this trail now as Avalara seems to have market dominance and high prices.  I also have contacted Vertex to get the latest scoop on the status of DS Tax doing the connection piece.  I'm probably chasing all this for nothing (for me) since I have mostly OM clients and that would be forever or never for Scanco to get threaded into OM code.  



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    Jane Scanlan
    Partner
    Next Level Manufacturing Consulting Group
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  • 7.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 03-27-2025 17:55

    @Dana Halpin was at one time pursuing Vertex / DS Tax for a client and may have additional information to share on the status of any integration.



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 8.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 03-27-2025 19:43

    My contact at Vertex is no longer responding to my inquires so gave up on that avenue. Just had a customer who did not renew with Avalara due to costs and we are in the process of bringing the sales tax piece back into standard Sage. I did recently connect to a customer who hired a developer to link Tax Jar to Sage 100 for sales tax calculations instead of using Avalara. The link pings the tax jar website and looks at zip and brings in current tax rate. They are happy with it.



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    Dana Halpin
    Vrakas/Blum Computer Consulting, Inc.
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  • 9.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 03-31-2025 15:51

    OK.  We have some news on this DS Tax solution.  Out of the blue my client gets a response (that seemed like a "what's your problem" and "didn't you know") we have that integration done and setup.  DSTax met with us.  They answered questions when asked.  Such as...  "Does anyone else have this live?"... "No"  We are currently testing in version 2024 after being told they have it ready in 2023.  They have someone who knows something about Sage but I can't figure out who it is.  The solution is using Custom Office scripts.  The tax amount is not update until you accept the record.  You have to "wait a moment" for it to update.  I am a bit concerned with 4 locations and about 10 plus people posting orders all day.



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    Larry Bradford
    Accounting Technology LLC Consultant and Owner
    Accounting Technology, LLC
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  • 10.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 04-28-2025 13:55

    Update from a client today regarding their conversation with Vertex.

    "Vertex is testing a version now with a customer and working out bugs that will be compatible with Sage 2024. They should have all the kinks worked out by mid-May."

    For what is worth.



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    Michael Davis
    Warren Averett Technology Group
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  • 11.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 04-28-2025 15:01

    I am also in the process of inquiring on the feasibility of Vertex and Sage 100 with OM.  I am currently waiting on my Vertex contact to let me know if they have an answer from DSTax as to whether or not they have integration capability with OM involved (I'm sure they need to have discussion with Scanco and why I have not heard back yet).  I'll post an update when I have one.  



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    Jane Scanlan
    Partner
    Next Level Manufacturing Consulting Group
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  • 12.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 05-26-2025 13:07

    I had a conference call with Vertex and DSTax sometime a couple of weeks ago, and subsequently followed up to David Gunnell at Scanco; David was open to talking with DSTax about integration capabilities when OM is involved.  I gave introductions to them, and as of yet I haven't heard anything back on the outcome - if they talked or anything else.  So ... no news - yet.



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    Jane Scanlan
    Partner
    Next Level Manufacturing Consulting Group
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  • 13.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 07-02-2025 09:34
    Edited by Brett Zimmerman 07-02-2025 09:34

    @Michael Davis, how did your client make out with Vertex for v2024?



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    Brett Zimmerman
    Net at Work
    Greater Boston Area
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  • 14.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 07-02-2025 15:51

    Perhaps End Point should acquire the package.....



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Owner
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    (540) 221-4444

    Improving bottom lines for over 25 years!
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  • 15.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 07-30-2025 09:59

    Our client was finally able to get the V2024 installed with DSTax (new connector of Vertex).

    It does work, but as Larry B stated, you have to accept the order/invoice to see the tax amount. This is a major design flaw. I was able to speak to someone at Vertex about it and they have it on the list to correct, but not sure when. I do like the custom office script approach as it might speed up upgrades. However, having to accept and order and then re-open to see the sales tax amount is not going to work for any of our clients. Will keep you posted if I hear more. Thank you



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    Michael Davis
    Warren Averett Technology Group
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  • 16.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-09-2025 06:33

    @Michael Davis - I have a client interested in Vertex, but specifically for some report they have to pass up the chain to corporate that includes the county.  I am guessing Vertex would not have this information in Sage.  How is the sales tax schedule setup in the customer when using Vertex?



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    Beth Bowers
    Dog Mom, first and foremost. The rest is all just necessary to keep the dogs in biscuits.
    (269) 358-0989
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  • 17.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-09-2025 08:53

    Beth,

    The Vertex Sage setup is very similar to the Avatax Sage setup. The tax schedule on the customer or ship to address code is Vertex or DSTAX (V2024) instead of Avatax. 

    Maybe you can use the standard fields in Sage to build the country code report.

    I am not sure how Vertex calculates sales tax that are not US as they do not have any. I do know that AvaTax struggles with that, so it is safe to assume Vertex does as well.

    The difference in the two programs is sales tax is calculated when you accept the order/ invoice and not when you get to the totals tab.

    Thank you

    Michael



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    Michael Davis
    Warren Averett Technology Group
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  • 18.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-09-2025 09:48

    THANK YOU, @Michael Davis - that's what I was hoping you would say.  My client is large enough that I dread the thought of switching tax providers, even as poopy as Avalara can be.  If they don't gain the county tax as part of the move, I don't think there's a point.  And I did tell them we could add a UDF and get the info RIGHT NOW - we'll see what they say.



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    Beth Bowers
    Dog Mom, first and foremost. The rest is all just necessary to keep the dogs in biscuits.
    (269) 358-0989
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  • 19.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-09-2025 10:09

    better the devil you know than the devil you don't



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 20.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-09-2025 10:10

    ExACTly



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    Beth Bowers
    Dog Mom, first and foremost. The rest is all just necessary to keep the dogs in biscuits.
    (269) 358-0989
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  • 21.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-23-2025 13:48

    @Michael Davis  I have a customer that wants to look at alternatives to Avalara.  They pay about $30K a year which seems very high.  Do you have a sense of Vertex compared to Avalara pricing if the Sage 100 configuration is the same?  For example, is Vertex 10% less expensive?  



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 22.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-24-2025 13:33

    Does anyone have the contact information of someone at Vertex that can provide a Sage 100 / Vertex demo?



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 23.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-24-2025 13:39

    Doug,

    Sorry for the delay, as I was off yesterday.

    I just confirmed with the client, it was 50% decrease in the sales tax annual invoices. Their bill went from 100,000 to 50,000

    My most recent contact at Vertex.

    Thank you

    Michael

    Steve Kopech

    Leader, Accountant Partner Program

    O 484-595-6032  M 224.234.7219

    stephen.kopech@vertexinc.com

    Vertex Inc.

    2301 Renaissance Blvd., King of Prussia, PA 19406

    www.vertexinc.com



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    Michael Davis
    Warren Averett Technology Group
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  • 24.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-24-2025 13:41

    Awesome.  Thanks @Michael Davis !



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 25.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-24-2025 13:43

    They flat out stopped replying to my client when we asked over about a period of 12 months about the status of their integration to Sage 100. I have read all the recent updates about a new developer and that at least one site appears to be using Vertex via some type of new integration. Proceed with extreme caution. I share your client's concerns about Avalara - regarding both cost and customer service shortcomings. There is a very high likelihood of becoming the unpaid complaint department in these engagements. 



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    Connecticut
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  • 26.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 09-24-2025 17:31
    Edited by Doug Higgs 09-24-2025 17:31

    Thanks @Wayne Schulz  Caution is duly noted!  Not a good look when communication stops.  It could only get worse once they have the money.



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 27.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 24 days ago

    I have had an inside sales person reach out to me repeatedly regarding Vertex.  He is insisting that Sage 100 has full integration with their product.  Has anyone in recent months confirmed this is accurate?  I'm willing to attend a meeting to "see it" to "believe it" but wonder if there is any experience along these lines.  And I can post a fresh post if that makes more sense. 

    Madeline,

    I was able to connect with a contact over at dsTax. Vertex can fully integrate with sage 100s most current and up to date versions which is great! I would love to connect to find a time to connect and see who we can be a great fit. 

    Connor Perrotti

    Inside Sales Representative II 

     Vertex Inc.
    2301 Renaissance Blvd.
    King of Prussia, PA 19406

    M: 656-756-6733
    Connor.perrotti@vertexinc.com

    http://www.vertexinc.com/. Click or tap if you trust this link." rel="noopener">vertexinc.com



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    Madeline Stefanou
    Sr. Solution Consultant
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
    LANCASTER PA
    717.208.3117
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  • 28.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 24 days ago

    See reply 15 above - which is my last memory of where Vertex was with their integration to Sage 100. Based on Vertex not being responsive for many months to inquiries about the integration I would proceed with extreme caution.

    Our client was finally able to get the V2024 installed with DSTax (new connector of Vertex).

    It does work, but as Larry B stated, you have to accept the order/invoice to see the tax amount. This is a major design flaw. I was able to speak to someone at Vertex about it and they have it on the list to correct, but not sure when. I do like the custom office script approach as it might speed up upgrades. However, having to accept and order and then re-open to see the sales tax amount is not going to work for any of our clients. Will keep you posted if I hear more. Thank you



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    Connecticut
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  • 29.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 24 days ago

    I have a HUGE client who keeps saying they are planning on moving to Vertex... but I haven't seen any actual movement. If they do, and it works for them, I'd say it can work for anyone. I've emailed them the shortcomings discussed here and they blew me off, so someone somewhere is determined...



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    Beth Bowers
    Dog Mom, first and foremost. The rest is all just necessary to keep the dogs in biscuits.
    (269) 358-0989
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  • 30.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 23 days ago

    To compete with Avalara/Sage 100 connector (DSD LMAV) on features, Vertex/DS needs real-time tax calculation, integrated exemption certificate management, and certificate exemption and product overrides.  Other features are address validation with write-back, and separate ShipToAddresses on Lines (included in LMAV).  These require screen customizations (included in LMAV). 

    Further, Vertex needs to offer services, i.e. outsourced exemption validation, exemption certificate campaign management, and Returns filing and remittance, among others.

    And of course, the critical issue of support and commitment to future releases.



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    Bob Pfahnl
    Manager - Silicon Valley
    DSD Business Systems
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  • 31.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 23 days ago

    @Bob Pfahnl Slightly off topic. How are "...separate ShipToAddresses on Lines..." used? I've seen the fields and read the blurb in the manual, but since in Sage shipping can only occur from the warehouse location (Point of Origin), would these typically be used for dropships, where shipped from an alternate location and not the client's warehouse? Or perhaps you are shipping to an intermediate location which then will send it off someplace else? It's also confusing because it's a ship 'to' but the documentation says it a Point or Origin.




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    Bill Pfahnl
    Nims & Associates
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  • 32.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 23 days ago

    We had a client that wanted to use this with Avalara, thinking it was the "ultimate delivery location"; since they ship to a central location that then delivers to individual "store locations".  It did not work as we had hoped because it is looking at those line addresses as the Ship From Address. 
    from Avalara:

    As a seller, it is important to know whether you are located in an origin-sourced state or a destination-sourced state. Most states and Washington, D.C., are destination-based. There are 12 origin-based states.

      1. Arizona
      2. California (considered a "mixed sourcing state" as city, county and state sales taxes are origin-based, while district sales taxes - supplementary local taxes - are destination-based)
      3. Illinois
      4. Mississippi
      5. Missouri
      6. New Mexico
      7. Ohio
      8. Pennsylvania
      9. Tennessee
      10. Texas
      11. Utah
      12. Virginia

    Sales within origin states

    Generally, if you are located in an origin-based state and make sales to customers within that state, you would charge sales tax based on your location, including any local and state taxes. For example, if you are based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and you make a sale to a customer in Provo, Utah, you will charge the applicable Salt Lake City sales tax on the sale.



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    Madeline Stefanou
    Sr. Solution Consultant
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
    LANCASTER PA
    717.208.3117
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  • 33.  RE: Will DS Tax deliver a Vertex Integration for Sage100

    Posted 23 days ago
    The manual is incorrect.  Warehouse is Origin and should be mapped to a matching Location in Avalara.  ShipToAddress is Destination, unless AVATAXPOS Tax Schedule is used on the transaction.
    It could be used for DropShips, though my experience is most Drop Ship Customers are exempt.
    One client with multiple locations takes a single Order from their customer.  Some Items ship from one location, others the other. The Picking List is sorted and prints at one warehouse for their products, and the other the others.  SDE/StarShip is in use.  The inconvenience is only one warehouse can pick/pack/ship at a time.  They didn't want to pay for the StarShip enhancement to allow both warehouses to ship the same Order at the same time.


     
    Bob Pfahnl
    Sr. Business Analyst (GM Silicon Valley) 
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