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Version 2020 Product Update

  • 1.  Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 13:23
    When is version 2020 product update 1 going to be released?  V2020 was released at the beginning of March, so more than four months ago.  I am hesitant to install it unless it is a core module or very basic configuration customer.   Should I tell users we need to upgrade to v2019, a product released almost a year and a half ago?

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 2.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 13:45
    Planned for September (probably 30th).

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    Lee Graham
    Friendly Systems, Inc.
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  • 3.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 15:27
    Thanks @Lee Graham  I tad frustrating.  If the end user has a third party product it could be another couple of months before you can even begin the software installation.  I hope the trend isn't to always be two years behind.  I thought product updates were quarterly but maybe I missed the memo.​​​​

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 4.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 15:32
    I can't remember where (MOTM?) but Sage indicated they are scaling back the number of new-content-releases to help developers for Enhancements in keeping current.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 5.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 15:44
    Scaling back is an understatement.  I think v4.4 had twenty something product updates.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 6.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 15:54
    PU's for bug fixes is one thing... but PU's to add features make it practically impossible for Enhancements to remain current.  Developers are constantly chasing a moving target, which is a problem directly caused by Sage when they started adding features with PU's (in 2018).

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 7.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 15:58
    Maybe I'm confused.  Is the PU only for enhancements, and hot fixes are the bug fixes?  If that's the case then am I safe to install 6.2.0 and all of the hot fixes?  Would anyone feel safe installing before PU 1 if the end user has several third party add-ons?

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 8.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 16:23
    We are working on v2020 upgrades now, installing the available hot fixes.  (One Live two days ago, including a DSD module EM freshly updated and it all went smoothly).
    We used to always wait until the first PU, but when Sage started throwing in new features with each PU, even then we had to wait for the bleeding edge issues to pass with each PU.
    v2018.3 added multi-SO on one invoice... tell me that is not going to affect absolutely every Enhancement related to SO Invoicing.  Such major changes should only be done with a major product release (not PU).

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 9.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 17:54
    Thanks @Kevin Moyes. I appreciate your insight.  I have done a couple of v2020 upgrades with no issues.  Today I had a company ask me to proceed with an upgrade proposal I have them last fall for v2019.   ​I'd like to take them to 2020.  They have ScanForce, and StarShip so compatibility is an issue.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 10.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-16-2020 08:49
    Working on an upgrade that started as a 2019 upgrade but put on hold in March.  DSD and Kissinger both turned around the enhancements in play in this one very quickly for 2020.  Our upgrade is now resuming using 2020.  Guess we are back in the days of more frequent individual hot fixes between less frequent PU's that now include new "features" for those clients on subscription.  Keeping on top of hot fix releases and getting them applied to client's systems already upgraded (if needed) is a struggle.

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    alan niergarth
    Velosio LLC
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  • 11.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-16-2020 09:39
    Sage is getting better at announcing hot fixes, and posting links on the download pages.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 12.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 18:03
    I'm working on 2020 upgrades for those companies where all their 3rd party solutions are ready. And I agree that the gap between release and subsequent updates needs to be narrowed.

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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 13.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 19:31
    I thought Sage's plan was to have bug fix PUs at 3 months and 9 months and feature PUs at  6 months?  Or did I hallucinate that slide deck?

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    Phil McIntosh
    President
    Friendly Systems, Inc.
    Asheville NC
    678.273.4010 ext 5
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  • 14.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 19:57
    @Phil McIntosh that's what Sage announced. ​ Or we're having a shared hallucination.

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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 15.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-15-2020 20:29
    So fix PU's were due out by the end of June..........

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 16.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-16-2020 07:43
    Payroll and MFG are likely consuming most of Sage’s resources. Which is too bad because the future of Sage 100 is strong distribution.

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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 17.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-16-2020 09:09
    Seems like bad resource management to me.  Does this surprise anyone?  Yes, the Covid mods were quite unexpected but MFG?  I thought Sage was outsourcing development for these modules?  Hearing mixed messages gives the impression that no one at Sage knows what is going on.  Perhaps the 90M management can dig into this and post back.

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 18.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-16-2020 09:15
    Probably no bugs in v2020 this quarter.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 19.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-17-2020 12:14
    I've done several upgrades to 2020 with core modules mostly just GL/AP, some no payroll some with payroll. NO 3rd party mods and have not had any problems or issues.  Hopefully did not just jinx it!  Usually we wait until the first PU but 2020 seems stable.

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    Mary Mays
    Sr. Consultant, DSD Business Systems
    DSD Business Systems
    KS
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  • 20.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-17-2020 13:13
    The scheduled June 25, 2020 update was for Sage 100 Payroll 2.20.2. 

    Product updates are released March and September. 

    Hot fixes are released as needed.

    Attachments
    Sage 100 Release Schedule
    Sage 100 2020 KB with links to Hot Fixes
    Link to 90 Minds Resource Library for Sage 100 Install Sets and Information

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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 21.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-17-2020 13:34
    This is in a slide deck posted to the Partner Hub.


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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 22.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-17-2020 15:01
    I believe that slide is referring to the Road Map for Manufacturing only.

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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 23.  RE: Version 2020 Product Update

    Posted 07-17-2020 15:36
    That is the emphasis, but the green entries show the Sage dates.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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