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v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

  • 1.  v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-01-2018 19:35
    v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability to do an ALE search based on ""full text"" (i.e. search all columns). So I thought I would try setting it as the default search display. Unfortunately, when I try to customize the ALE, this option does not appear. What am I overlooking or did Sage do the overlooking?


  • 2.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 06:24
    Technically I believe that feature was part of the v2017 release, but it looks like the same issue in v2017.


  • 3.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 06:49
    So is it a sleeper issue that no one has noticed the new feature (I didn't realize it was there until recently) and will we be told it is a WAD. I personally like it better that the ""super search"" feature that searches all fields when you start typing in the customer/vendor/item code field (that is very confusing). I liked it so much that I was going to make it the global default search when I stumbled across this limitation. Guess I will send a not to Linda Cade and ask that she put it in the 2020 queue. I don't feel like wasting my time on hold, then explaining to a lower level support person what the issue is.


  • 4.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 07:46
    Also note that ""full text"" isn't truly a 'contains' search as you might expect. For example, if you do a full text search for ""master"" as in Postmaster, it doesn't pick that up, but it does if you do a full text search for ""postmaster"".


  • 5.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 08:04
    Not quite what I am seeing. It is a ""contains"" search for the Name field (I am testing in AR maintenance). For all the other fields displayed, it seems to be a ""begins with"" search. Golly, just LOVE their consistency!! I love the concept, but wow they suck on consistency. If you search in the Sage dictionary for the word ""consistency"", the definition is ""whatever is easiest


  • 6.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 10:32
    Don't you need to Build Search Index for that to work properly?


  • 7.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 10:51
    It didn't help when I tried earlier, @KevinMoyes. Pretty sure Build Search Index is for the Auto-complete feature.


  • 8.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 10:56
    @JeffSchwenk, if I'm in Cust Maint and do a 'full text' search for ""ness"" (as in American Busi**ness** Futures), nothing comes up. But if I do a 'full text' search for ""bus"", ABF does come up. You're not experiencing that?


  • 9.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 11:22
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    @JeffSchwenk maybe this video is helpful or is it not working as they describe? Though it does appear you must run the build search index under LM>utilities, if you do not (which I didn't before) the selection is available but it wont have any results.


  • 10.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 12:59
    Thanks @JeremyFox - Spent two minutes watching the video and I now have five minutes worth of questions. There was no mention that you HAD to build the search index in LM. I personally don't think you have to. The one example they presented gave no hint of being ""begins with"" or ""contains"". Will send a note off to support. Nice idea, but is typical Sage in that it lacks robustness.


  • 11.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 13:00
    @JeremyFox, it does appear it's working as described in the video, but they don't happen to mention that it only does a 'begins with' search on each field (as per my above examples). Ideally it should do a 'contains' search. Build Search Index didn't seem to help this issue, but I suppose it _may_ help with the general 'full text' search functionality - even though the documentation states it's specifically for the auto-complete feature.


  • 12.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 13:09
    @JeffSchwenk @BrettZimmerman interesting I ran the test in my 2018 again and sure enough as Brett mentioned its a beginning or end. Seems more like that Sage miss named the tool rather than a bug from what I'm seeing ie it searches all the fields for begins with or ends with. Honestly that's hardly a full text search, guess that's their flavor of the year. Also the rebuild index seems to give some of that in the vendor no field. I did a test in ABC vendor typed in pro and got airway.


  • 13.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 13:11
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    I recall rebuilds was in the training, looks like it was in one of the videos:


  • 14.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 13:14
    That's the video ""Enhanced Auto-Complete"" I can upload that too if desired its 48.5MB


  • 15.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 13:19
    No need to for my benefit. That feature is even more confusing. While I understand the functionality, it returns items that don't make sense and is limited to 10 hits in the drop down. I think the ALE ""full test"" has greater potential.


  • 16.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-02-2018 18:15
    I've had a case open with Sage for over two months now...one of the issues was exactly that....have a default view with FULL TEXT SEARCH as the default. Sage's answer...that is not possible. By the way, the case is that if you do a Full text search on one column and then immediately do another full search on another column, it doesn't resets itself and usually bring incorrect data....still waiting on a resolution...customer upset since they did upgrade because of this.....??


  • 17.  RE: v2018 - New feature in this release is the ability

    Posted 05-05-2018 11:11
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    I am coming to the conclusion that this is a **totally** useless feature. In theory, it is a great improvement. If only it would work as advertised. The latest is this - the number of ""hits"" is limited to **ten**!!!! The same as if you are typing in a field and the possible items are displayed in the drop down window. When I use the ALE and name contains parameter, I get a total of 17 possibilities. When I use the ALE ""full text"" and enter the same search phrase, the first ten items are returned, NOT all 17! Not sure if this is the same as @LourdesSobrino issue, as it is now, I will not be showing this feature at all.