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  • 1.  Uninstall steps for Vertex

    Posted 10-12-2023 10:47

    My customer is no longer using the vertex software and I'm in the process of upgrading them. Does anyone have instructions on how to uninstall vertex software from ProvideX version of Sage? I was planning to uninstall the software from the system configuration but wanted to check and see if anyone had any directions. I have reached out to vertex support about the uninstall process but have not received any instructions. TIA.



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    Shannon Stanley
    Sage 100 Consultant
    Ardent Consulting LLC
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  • 2.  RE: Uninstall steps for Vertex

    Posted 11-18-2024 10:27

    Shannon did you ever get anywhere with an automated uninstall of Vertex? I have a similar situation and while I tried the uninstall from within Sage it seems as if Vertex left a bunch of customized panels that I suspect need to be manually updated to remove any vertex fields?



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 3.  RE: Uninstall steps for Vertex

    Posted 11-19-2024 09:31

    I can't tell if the issues with this upgrade revolve around discontinuing Vertex or if they are more general Sage issues with customized panels.



    Customer remained on their production server using Vertex ( I did NOT remove Vertex on production since the customer needed to keep working)

    • I installed the latest Sage 100 - WITHOUT Vertex
    • Sage allowed me to migrate data
    • I used the uninstall on the system configuration screen to "remove" Vertex on the upgrade side ( not sure this did much )
    • Installed Avalara 
    • Several panels give those odd error 65 messages which I find often relate to mis-aligned fields on panels
    • I went into Custom Office and in almost all cases removed a button ( I think the button name started with VTX ) for Vertex. I only had to remove one or two VTX type buttons. I saved the panel. Then I had to go back in and find where the Avalara button was because initially it seemed like the Vertex button was overlaying Avalara.
    • Once I moved the Avalara button I could see it on the appropriate screens ( typically next to the sales tax amount where the Avalara button is used to recalculate tax )

    There's probably more fun to come - this is just what I've had to do in the initial steps to stage the upgrade without re-installing Vertex. 

    Note: As of 11/19/24 the reason that the customer discontinued use of Vertex is that there was no connector available for Sage 100 past Sage 100 v2021. Despite multiple inquiries the customer was not able to get a firm date on when/if there might be an upgraded connector.



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 4.  RE: Uninstall steps for Vertex

    Posted 11-19-2024 11:18

    I have a customer with this (self-inflicted) issue. He had removed Vertex and reinstalled Avatax. 

    Existing clients work fine, but any new workstation throws an error in Sales Order Entry referencing a path that does not exist. It is looking for a tmp file, which we tried just dropping a file with that name, but it still errors out. Something was installed by wksetup when Vertex was installed that is now missing when running it.

    I wonder if you try to install the upgraded client on a machine that didn't previously have Sage 100 installed if you won't experience the same issue.

    Right now these guys are stuck without the ability to deploy any new workstations or remote desktop client. I didn't have great confidence that upgrading would fix this. We haven't tried it yet. I expected the only way to get this cleaned would be a fresh install at new version, install all ISVs they want to keep, re-customize all the UDFs, panels, etc and save them to drop in the upgraded/migrated system.



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    Eric Lunceford
    First Mate Business Solutions
    Oklahoma City, OK
    877-880-8960
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  • 5.  RE: Uninstall steps for Vertex

    Posted 11-19-2024 11:39

    On the server there is a set of files that drive the workstation auto-updater.  (I don't know how this works in enough detail to explain it, but it is worth looking at, for clues about what is missing... I am pretty sure Sage built this for Product Updates / hotfixes... with room for Master Developers to use the same feature to push things to workstations through the same auto-updater processes).

    There could also be something leftover in the Links folder... and SY_ClassEnhancement



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 6.  RE: Uninstall steps for Vertex

    Posted 11-19-2024 14:13

    Now my next question is what happens if I do the upgrade as follows: 

    Sage 100 2020 with Vertex
    Migrate that data to Sage 100 2024 and install Avalara
    Convert data on 2024

    Now when I want to go live I normally would just take the v2020 MAS_XXX and copy it into the upgraded v2024. 
    However I'm thinking I may need another step to get that data to recognize that Avalara is now installed.

    Do I need to reinstall Avalara after I've copied in the MAS_XXX but before I reconvert the data for go-live? 

    I haven't done many upgrades where I added a module and then tried to reconvert the data using the drag/drop method...



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 7.  RE: Uninstall steps for Vertex

    Posted 11-20-2024 04:22

    In addition to the button residing next to the Sales Tax Amount field (Sales Tax Recalculation), it also resides next to Address1 in AR/SO and Vendor Maintenance.  That button invokes the Address Validation feature in Avalara, a chargeable event that counts as a transaction/invoice, and writes back the USPS address. 



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    Bob Pfahnl
    Manager - Silicon Valley
    DSD Business Systems
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  • 8.  RE: Uninstall steps for Vertex

    Posted 11-19-2024 11:37

    Wayne - MDs will write their panel customizations to the M4L libraries in the base folder like \AR or \SO but not into the Customizer'd folders such as those found under \AR\Custom and \SO\Custom. IOW since you did an Uninstall, it's possible the Vertex controls were removed from the base folders but not the subfolders under \Custom, so try running the Custom Office Panel Update utility (but make a backup of all \Custom folders first). Hope that helps.



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    Alnoor Cassim
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
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