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  • 1.  Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-17-2024 10:24

    Client is upgrading (from v2021 Advanced) to v2023 Advanced (32-Bit version); on a new server.  Server is Windows Server 2022 Datacenter.  We can preview and print to PDF, or save as PDF then open the PDF File in Adobe Acrobat without issue.  However, the experience when trying to use Paperless Office for printing reports to paperless, or journals/registers, or forms is very different.  The user gets the message:  Unable to Initialize PDF Converter, with an OK button, no further information.  We checked Event Server Logs and see no issues.

    In Sage 100, we go to File/Run and execute PL_AdvancedOptions_ui successfully; nothing out of the norm in the error log.  We have tried with Check on for Automatic Install Converter and with Check Off; no difference.  When we "uninstall" the PDF Converter, it removes the printer.  When we "Install" it Installs the printer; first it says "uninstalling printer" (Printer is removed from Devices and Printer) then it installs it (we then see the printer added back in Devices and Printers).  We see "Sage 100 Paperless Office Driver Version 650" as the printer.  There are no redirected printers.  When we "test" the paperless, the behavior is:  Message reads "copying files"; we see the printer completely disappear in Devices and Printer; then it reappears again.  At the Sage 100 message about the watermark, it does say that Sage 100 Paperless Office Driver Version 650 is installed properly on this workstation.  We press OK and get the error. Big white X in a red circle, and message "Unable to initialize PDF Converter".  We are administrators of the Server, we are right clicking on Sage 100 to log in prior to re-installing the PDF Converter.  

    This is at the new Application Server.  Same problem at the new RDP Server.  Same problem at a brand new workstation with no printer group policies.  I have not tried installing the v2023 client onto one of the old servers; and can try that to see if it is really the new environment.  Otherwise, I've tried everything I can see in the Sage Knowledgebase, nothing is moving me forward with this problem.  Any ideas? 



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 2.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-17-2024 11:25

    When I have tried everything and paperless office still doesn't work, I delete the print driver.  Go to the print server properties and manually delete all Amyuni print drivers.  Then run the pl_advancedoptions_ui again.



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 3.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-17-2024 13:46

    i don;t have access to server 2022 however on server 2016 go to Print management, click on the Print Server, under Drivers click print Server Properties and then Drivers tab.  Remove any Amyuni drivers.



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 4.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-17-2024 14:31

    I like Doug's idea of deleting any / all Amyuni Document Converter drivers. I would also suggest changing your Sage icon temporarily so that in the Compatibility tab you are set the Compatibility level to Windows 8 (and you can mark Run as Admin from there as well). Now start up, run PL_AdvancedOptions_UI, do Uninstall Converter first (which Install Converter calls but cleaner this way), then Install Converter, then Test. If it works or you get a better error message, I'm thinking what you should do next is is go to Control Panel / Programs & Features and click Turn Windows Features On and add some of the older Windows components that are not selected by default on a brand new Windows Server o/s (e.g. .NET Framework 3.5). Another and probably better way to do this by manually installing some of the EXEs under \mas90\WkSetup\Prerequisites



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    Alnoor Cassim
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
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  • 5.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-17-2024 15:02

    @Kevin Moyes suggested the User Account Control hack through Registry.  And I believe that is my problem.  When I set the EnableLUA Value manually to "0" and reboot, it resets it 1; and when I then look at UAC, it says "pending update"; so it looks like it says "NEVER" but it doesn't actually.  I've asked IT to resolve this; then once done, if it does not fix the issue, I will cycle back through these suggestions.  THANK YOU! 



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 6.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-17-2024 15:30
    Edited by Alnoor Cassim 10-18-2024 12:18

    Yes Kevin is right on the money. UAC makes complete sense given the symptoms you're getting.



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    Alnoor Cassim
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
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  • 7.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-17-2024 16:09

    Windows wants to turn UAC back on, but as long as you rebooted with it at 0, UAC is effectively disabled until you reboot again, and you should not have it block any software install activities.



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 8.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-18-2024 09:45

    Madeline - do you see this status with your Sage 100 PDF Converter? I have the same issue with a 2023 test install on a Windows 2019 server and the only thing we haven't tried yet was the regedit for UAC. Deleting the printer drivers themselves did not help.



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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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  • 9.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-18-2024 12:18

    Amber that status means, for v2023 that uses Amyuni 6.50, that it's trying to read this registry key:

    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CDIntfEx.CDIntfEx.6.5\CLSID

    It then tries to read this GUID in the (Default) string: {50C727B5-0DD5-4F3A-8DF4-F7A9FF0C2431}

    If there is no value in the string you get the error. Having said that, it sounds like the UAC edit with reboot is the way to go.



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    Alnoor Cassim
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
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  • 10.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-18-2024 12:23

    Thanks, Alnoor. I am asking IT to reboot the server with the registry key change to try this Sunday again and will report back. 



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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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  • 11.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-18-2024 13:03

    Background on the UAC registry hack (from a random Google search result):

    It started in Server 2012 when M$ changed how UAC works... and they may have changed it since, but doing this does seem to help in many cases involving software not installing properly.



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 12.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-18-2024 13:08

    Most of the servers I see have UAC disabled.



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 13.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-18-2024 13:13

    We disable UAC for 100% of server software installations.  If client IT wants it back on after that, we don't object... but for the initial install we insist.

    For workstation installation issues we disable UAC when troubleshooting (reinstall...).



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 14.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 08:14

    I am still seeing the message that the Converter is "not registered but is installed" after UAC was disabled via regedit and server rebooted yesterday. I also see that the key that Alnoor mentioned for the v6.5 driver does have a value...not the one that Alnoor referenced but one that does match another Sage 100 v2023 client of mine. I'll start a case with Sage next to see what else we can look at.



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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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  • 15.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 10:20

    Thanks @Amber Prayfrock and everyone else.  I'm still getting the same problem; with the Registry hack and all.  I will also open a case with Sage.



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 16.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 10:53

    The message "not registered but is installed" could be referring to one of the Amyuni driver DLLs that get installed and registered.  I am not sure what DLLs get installed however it may be worth finding out and then manually registering them using regsvr32.



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 17.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 10:58

    I did try that as well, between the C:\Windows\System32 and SysWow64 folders. I have re-opened my case with Sage that I started back in August letting them know I tried everything they suggested in Solution ID: 223924450035032.



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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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  • 18.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 11:11

    Does cdintf650.dll exist in c:\windows\syswow64?



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 19.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 11:13

    This may sound crazy, but have you tried changing the windows default for opening PDF documents to something besides Adobe Acrobat reader? 

    I spent weeks troubleshooting what sounds the same as what you are seeing; changing the windows default to open PDF documents using Edge completely resolved the issue. This was on a shared cloud RDP server. I'll add that few months later the client emailed saying that the problem "came back" I checked, and someone had changed the default back to Adobe. Switching it again fixed it a second time. 

    I am not sure why; I suspected that it was antivirus or malware software causing it due to a link that pops up in the free version of Adobe when viewing documents. I think t is worth a try anyway.



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    David Overholt
    DWD Technology Group
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  • 20.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 11:17

    Also check the permissions on the registry key and be sure everyone has full control.



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 21.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 12:12

    @David Overholt set to Edge for PDF Documents, no change.
    @Doug Higgs in Registry Editor the paperless office version 650 has full permission for everyone 
    @Doug Higgs the "cdintf650.dll" does exist in C:\Windows\SysWow64 folder. I even registered it again... 
    @Alnoor Cassim I made the "windows 8 compatible" and your other suggestions, no go. 




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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 22.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 16:49

    @Madeline Stefanou, I worked with Don Wiser on my old case 8010186588. He ended up giving me a copy of his 2023.1 ..\MAS90\PL\PL_CommonUtility.pvc, based on Solution ID 240916215409323 that he was looking at. Let me know if you want the same copy or if you want to use one of yours with the client's system.



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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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  • 23.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 17:08

    O.  M.  G.  @Amber Prayfrock that worked.  That really worked. I copied the PL_CommonUtility.pvc from my local v2023.1 onto their system, and it now works.  THANK YOU, I'm so glad you responded.  



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 24.  RE: Unable to Initialize PDF Converter

    Posted 10-21-2024 17:14

    Glad it worked for you too! Not sure what's in the file but at this point, I didn't push for a thorough explanation :D



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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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