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This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

Mark Chinsky

Mark Chinsky10-28-2018 16:26

alan niergarth

alan niergarth10-29-2018 08:13

Robert Wood

Robert Wood10-30-2018 07:30

Mark Chinsky

Mark Chinsky10-30-2018 17:43

  • 1.  This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-26-2018 12:30
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    This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage 100 ""cloud""???


  • 2.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-26-2018 12:33
    You can telnet to it with a 1200 baud US Robotics modem, therefore it is cloud.


  • 3.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-26-2018 13:21
    Smoke (and mirrors)? https://www.wikihow.com/Burn-Sage


  • 4.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-26-2018 13:36
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    Here's 30 seconds of nostalgia. Skip to :11 for the good stuff...


  • 5.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-26-2018 14:03
    White, puffy, intangible... no questions here :)


  • 6.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-26-2018 14:58
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    @MarkChinsky they are using the verb form of cloud:


  • 7.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-28-2018 16:26
    I started a priceless thread lol


  • 8.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 08:13
    Verb as in they are ""clouding"" the issue?


  • 9.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 08:32
    Someone saw Steven Kelly wearing these, and just ran with it. https://www.alexandalexa.com/en/product/158578/muddy-puddles-green-with-white-cloud-print-snug-welly-socks?noredir=1


  • 10.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 09:10
    Where's Doug Labahn when we need to have something condescendingly explained to us? ""Our research shows partners actually want our products to be horrible and their margins to shrink. Top partners have told us that we should charge customers more and deliver less. Peter, you don't understand what the data is saying."" (A too close to real conversation that I had with Doug a few years back.)


  • 11.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 09:11
    All to close to too many conversations with Doug.


  • 12.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 09:15
    He told the BPAC at one point that ""due to top partner requests, Sage CRM pricing was going up by 20%."" Well Danny Estrada (Net@Work) and I were in the room and we accounted for probably 30% of Sage CRM sales at the time between our two firms so I asked Doug ""which top partners asked for this because Danny and I certainly didn't."" Admittedly, in hindsight, I figured out it was a dick move on my part. At the time, I sincerely thought partners had asked for it and didn't realize that he was just lying to make moves that he felt were correct. His face got very red and he stammered around a bit like he was surprised I would dare ask such a question and said he could pull the data for me later. Spoiler alert. He didn't.


  • 13.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 09:53
    Spineless. If you decide to do something, own it (...don't pass off the blame in a lame attempt at deflection). In art image **is** substance. But in practical matters, anyone who focuses on image over substance just makes my skin crawl.


  • 14.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 10:38
    @PeterWolf he probably had a spreadsheet that supported the idea somewhere but who knows where the data came from.


  • 15.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 10:55
    is that the same as mansplaining? Sagesplaining??


  • 16.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 11:03
    He had data - he showed me his massive spreadsheet and his pivot tables. I don't think he was necessarily wrong in some of the conclusions he drew but as @KevinMoyes stated above, he should have owned it instead of trying to make it sound like ""top partners"" wanted something that none of us wanted. Both Doug and Joe Langner would continually pull that out ""top partners have asked us ... "" Like we were all morons and would simply believe them.


  • 17.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-29-2018 11:24
    He definitely should have owned it. In addition, using the ""top partners"" as a scapegoat is a weak argument. There should be some concrete statistics and valid sample data backing the decision. The ""top partners"" are self-serving and what is great for them may not be best for Sage, its customers, and for the other partners.


  • 18.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-30-2018 07:04
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG75FJkjr8


  • 19.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-30-2018 07:30
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  • 20.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-30-2018 11:28
    @RobertWood the spreadsheet data was obviously based on #FOCUS groups. Duh


  • 21.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-30-2018 17:43
    Or Fukus groups :)


  • 22.  RE: This still boggles the mind. How exactly is Sage

    Posted 10-31-2018 12:19
    @ Mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFlCD5CYAcU