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This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

  • 1.  This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-10-2023 15:55

    I'm probably one of the few who tends to leave behind the old Sage 100 on the server for fear of adding/remove also removing some critical components used by the new version of Sage 100.

    I know Add/Remove doesn't remove data and leaves some files in the \MAS90 folder behind.
    Is there any danger to my current live Sage 100 by using Add/Remove? 

    For example, this is a pretty typical setup for me: 

    c:\acct\v2019\MAS90
    c:\acct\v2022\MAS90

    If I add/remove the v2019 version - what risk - if any - do I run that v2022 starts having an error because some component needed by 2022 is removed? 

    I suspect I'm being utterly illogical in not just adding/removing these older versions, but I figured I would check first.





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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 2.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-10-2023 15:59

    It's not just you, @Wayne Schulz !



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    Beth Bowers
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  • 3.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-10-2023 16:35

    I never uninstall them. If space becomes an issue, I just delete the older versions folders. 

    We never get too many out there before a new server is deployed and start over with only the latest on it.



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    Eric Lunceford
    First Mate Business Solutions
    Oklahoma City, OK
    877-880-8960
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  • 4.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-10-2023 16:35

    Typically I let the version I'm upgrading from as well as the new version until I do the next upgrade.  Then I delete the original version.  So I'll have a structure like you have above and when I add v2023, I'll delete the v2019 folder.  I don't usually uninstall it, though.  

    I recently found that uninstalling the older versions seemed to help when I was dealing with "Error: "The PVX Object init failed" or "Object ProvideX.Script is invalid" when installing Sage 100 Standard Workstation Setup, though.  When I uninstalled, I always left the most recent and the new version, though.  



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    Mary Jo Krueger
    Senior Software Consultant
    CLA (CliftonLarsonAllen LLP)
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  • 5.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-10-2023 16:54

    A post from two years ago.  Doesn't sound like anything has changed.

    Removing Old Versions of Sage 100 from Server | Sage 100 (90minds.com)



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    (540) 221-4444
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  • 6.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-11-2023 08:54

    I'm a chicken, and don't remove the old versions.  



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 7.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 08:31

    I've only uninstalled it once, and there was a specific reason which became operative several months after the upgrade go-live.  I'm with the others on this!



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    Susan Pawlowic
    Sage 100 Solutions Architect
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
    spawlowic@rklesolutions.com
    (717) 735-9109 Ext. 4352
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  • 8.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 08:37
    Edited by Madeline Stefanou 05-12-2023 08:37

    I just logged onto a client and realized I have used this trick a few times.  I create a new folder called "OK2Delete", then I move the old version into that folder, with a screen shot of where it was before the move.  And I let the IT Team know (or table a reminder for 30-days); and then go back and delete that new folder later.  My hope is that if there are issues in 30-days, it is a quick recovery.  But I don't ever use the "uninstall" for Sage versions.  



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 9.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 11:46

    I agree with most everyone here. I don't uninstall but I do zip up the old MAS90 folder if space is an issue.



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    Greg Stiles
    S & W Microsystems
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  • 10.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 15:28

    I like to rename the activate.pvx on the old version to prevent anyone from accidentally accessing it.  Something like V2019Activate.pvx .  That way I can easily re-activate it should something require it.  But, yeah, leave it there for awhile.



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    Jon Parkinson
    Timac Business Systems
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  • 11.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 15:44

    We rename SY_User (to SY_User.M4T.disabled) during upgrades for the same reason: preventing accidental use of the old version (with it also preventing ODBC use too, since that needs to be authenticated, but doesn't use a license so not sure if the activate.pvx rename would block ODBC).  If we get a user complaint about "sy_user is not on file", we know the cause immediately: they are using the wrong shortcut.
    (Of course that doesn't work on Premium, so we rename something else that's obvious / easy to rename back... e.g. pvxwin32.exe.disabled or MAS90_disabled...).

    Renaming old folders for a while before deleting is something we do too.  Better safe than sorry.  (Never uninstall).



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
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  • 12.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 16:21

    I create INSTLOCK.txt in the Home folder on the old versions. Gives the message "The Administrator is currently maintaining the system. Try again later."



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    Greg Stiles
    S & W Microsystems
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  • 13.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 16:27

    We have too many users who know how to remove the instlock.txt file (because we tell them to use that trick when they want to lock the system while working on things like period end reconciliations).



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
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  • 14.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 16:35

    LOL @Kevin Moyes Gotta keep those secrets, SECRET!



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    Greg Stiles
    S & W Microsystems
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  • 15.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 17:31

    :-)
    That isn't really a secret.  A few found it on their own (or before we became their partner), and a few we've made the suggestion when asked for help.  (I remember one client was going into User Maintenance and locking all users one by one, a list of about 50, each time she wanted to do period end... ugh... can you imagine?).



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
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  • 16.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 16:45

    I tend to leave things as they are..   Only if disk space is an issue do I really worry about it.   I have found that if you uninstall an older version you WILL have to reinstall the client for the new version as it almost always "breaks" it.   First couple of times that happened it freaked me out so out of an abundance of caution I tend to leave things alone.   



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    Bob Osborn
    Consultant
    ACI Consulting
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  • 17.  RE: This is probably a dumb question - is it generally safe to add/remove the prior version of Sage 100 from the server after upgrade?

    Posted 05-12-2023 17:47

    @Kevin Moyes not to get too far off topic, but I had one enterprising CFO who was a "wanna' be" Network Admin who would regularly change file permissions on the server by applying deny rights to the MAS90 folder for all the users except himself so he could do period end, physical count, etc... Scary. Had to fix all the permission after he left because they were so messed up. 



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    Greg Stiles
    S & W Microsystems
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