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  • 1.  Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 15:03
    First it was Oxford commas, now it's the second space after a period.
    I may as well just go back to using stone tablets and a chisel.

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Beth Bowers
    269-445-1625
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  • 2.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 15:14
    Before you finish the bottle of Jack and start slurring your typed words, can you enlighten us on the latest hair pulling event?

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 3.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 16:14
    I believe she is referring to how many spaces you use after a period before you start the next sentence. Me? I feel one is sufficient and dislike seeing two spaces.

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    Therese Logeais, Technology Integrators
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  • 4.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 16:17
    I use two spaces unless auto-correct complains (I think auto-correct is wrong).  :-0

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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 5.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 16:41
    I thought proportionally spaced fonts took care of this 19th century readability correction for us. Only use two when typing with the courier font. :-)

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    Dan Burleson
    Software Consultant
    Connex Software
    Corvallis OR
    541-224-6642
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  • 6.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 16:45
    Holy smokes.. I barely passed high school English.  If I have to worry about how many spaces to use after period depending on the font I am screwed!!!

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 7.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 16:41
    Apparently MS Word is now considering it incorrect to put 2 spaces after a period.

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Beth Bowers
    269-445-1625
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  • 8.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 17:00
    https://www.technewstoday.com/microsoft-word-flags-two-spaces/?fbclid=IwAR3cbSOkYK4tpZkv_S2JQ3m3lKiB3hfS5PuU8z0NGb8KZ9wONFTH3lVLh5E

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    Therese Logeais, Technology Integrators
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  • 9.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 17:11
    Wow!!!  First they drop cursive and now they are changing the rules learned back in Mrs. Hall's typing class my senior year.  She taught it all on both a manual and a state of the art SELECTRIC typewriter!  Nothing could be clearer - one space after a comma and TWO spaces after a period!!  There are few rules that are more set in stone (or tablets).  I REFUSE to change!!!!!!!  The current administration can change all the rules they want in the next 8 months, but NO ONE is going to take away my RIGHT to put two spaces after my PERIOD!  Who is with me on this??????

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 10.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 17:18
    Well, if we could do polls like back in the good ol' days, we could do an official 90 Minds poll but alas, we are not back in the good ol' days any longer. 

    Might I suggest you try replying to an email using just one space and see how you like it (or not)? I've been using one space for gee, it seems like a decade but that could just be because of the length the last couple of months seem like. I remember it took a little getting used to but now, it is way easier.

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    Therese Logeais, Technology Integrators
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  • 11.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 17:30
    I will always use two spaces because it is, simply, easier to read.  The visual break between sentences (to begin a new thought) is easier on the eyes, instead of a run on string of text.  M$ got it wrong, unless all proportional spaced fonts are automagically (not a typo) made wider after a period (when displayed on screen and printed), which of course is not happening.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 12.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-15-2020 17:46
    The association with typewriters is false, and intended to bias the reader towards pairing two spaces with obsolete technology.  When I write by hand, I also add more white space after a period, naturally.
    Why do we capitalize the first letter of a sentence?  That was done on typewriters too... so let's stop!
    What about paragraphs?  Let's do away with CRLF (an abbreviation literally associated with typewriter technology)!
    Of course we're not going to do either.  Two spaces was not common practice because of anything specific with typewriter technology, it was done because of how the human eye works.  I honestly have no clue how anyone could complain about the two spaces.  Mystifying in the extreme that this became a pop-culture "thing" to the point that M$ decided to do something with grammar check.
    /SMH

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 13.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 09:49

    Wait, what?  With all the world's problems, Microsoft decided for everybody that one space versus two spaces is better?  Here's what I think we should do:

    1.       Write your congress representatives and demand they break up the Microsoft monopoly!!!

    2.       We all fly to Redmond, WA and picket Microsoft (keeping a 6 ft distance of course).  We can probably get George Soros to pay for expenses especially if we work in some anti-Trump stuff!!!

    3.       Instead of a hunger strike, disable auto correct spell check for 30 days!!!

    4.       Start a Go-Fund-Me page and develop a product where you can haves as many spaces after a period as we want.

    5.       Next Meeting Of The Minds, have a mass march from the meeting room to the bar!!!!  Wait, we already do that.

     

    I am clearly in Schwenk's camp on this one.

     

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    ------Original Message------

    The association with typewriters is false, and intended to bias the reader towards pairing two spaces with obsolete technology.  When I write by hand, I also add more white space after a period, naturally.
    Why do we capitalize the first letter of a sentence?  That was done on typewriters too... so let's stop!
    What about paragraphs?  Let's do away with CRLF (an abbreviation literally associated with typewriter technology)!
    Of course we're not going to do either.  Two spaces was not common practice because of anything specific with typewriter technology, it was done because of how the human eye works.  I honestly have no clue how anyone could complain about the two spaces.  Mystifying in the extreme that this became a pop-culture "thing" to the point that M$ decided to do something with grammar check.
    /SMH

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 14.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 09:52
    Now that's funny @Bob Tobey !!   ​​

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 15.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 10:19
    It's nice to disagree about unimportant stuff though, isn't it??

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    Therese Logeais, Technology Integrators
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  • 16.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 10:34
    Don't get me started. My #1, NUMERO UNO complaint is "Why is Mother's Day always first in the calendar year?"!  That's just wrong!!!   ​

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    Bob Tobey
    I-Business Network, Cloud Channel Manager
    I-Business Network, LLC
    Marietta GA
    678-627-0646 x231
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  • 17.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 11:15
    Hey, in MN, opening fishing is the SAME weekend as Mother's Day. Now that's not right!!!

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    Therese Logeais, Technology Integrators
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  • 18.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 11:17
    In Minnesota, Mother's Day = Take Mom Fishing Day.

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    Myron Stevenson
    Consultant
    Clearis Consulting, Inc
    Duluth, MN
    218-525-6720
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  • 19.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 12:17
    And yet another reason to stay on Office 2013/2016.  I believe in social distancing both in person AND sentence structure.  Two spaces to prevent sentence run on!

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 20.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 12:25


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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 21.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 18:01
    It's been a one-space rule for a long time. CMOS started in either 1993 or 2003, depending on how you want to think of it. 
    Basically, once computer type fonts took over, the spacing is managed there.
    Time Marches On!

    https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/OneSpaceorTwo.html

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    Jerry Norman
    VP, 90 Minds
    Smartbridge Partners
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 22.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 18:49
    In another 10 or 20 years it will be all acronyms and emojis anyway

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    Phil McIntosh
    President
    Friendly Systems, Inc.
    Asheville NC
    678.273.4010 ext 5
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  • 23.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 20:17
    Edited by John Hoyt 04-16-2020 22:05



  • 24.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-16-2020 20:20
    Edited by John Hoyt 04-16-2020 20:23
    My Slack emojis​ don't work on HL.

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    John Hoyt, Co-Founder
    Next Level Manufacturing Consulting Group
    johnh@nextlevelMCG.com
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  • 25.  RE: Second space after a period

    Posted 04-17-2020 08:03
    10 to 20 years?  If texting with my 9yr old is any indication, emojis are already 90% and the rest are memes...

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    Steve Iwanowski, NextStep Technology Advisors, aka DSD Lancaster PA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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