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  • 1.  Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 14:58
    Edited by Anne Sawyer 11-17-2023 15:03

    Hello BOD

    This past Thursday - I had a conversation with Dianetta in which Sage formally requested that Ebiz Charge not be allowed to attend and participate in the conference.  I was very surprised by this request and let her know that they have been an Affiliate Member and top Sponsor for years.   I also just completed and received back a signed contract to be a platinum sponsor from Ebiz.    

    I said I could not possibly consider this request at this time and that it would be a Board decision due to the financial implications of its all.  I even outlined generally what it means to us financially.   I also indicated that many of the partners and customers are still using the product. 

    So this is what I got back from Dianetta today.   I do not want to be in this position at all and welcome your comments and responses. 

    In follow-up to our conversation on yesterday as it relates to the payments processor that 90 Minds has agreed to accept as a platinum sponsor for the 2024 MOTM event of which Sage is the exclusive diamond sponsor, it has been asked "Why 90 Minds has accepted a sponsorship from a company that has loudly stated it has no contractual relationship with Sage"?

    One question I have:   Do all of the ISVs have contractual relationships?



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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds Inc.
    Sunset Beach CA
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  • 2.  RE: Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 15:09

    90Minds has never had a requirement for ISVs to have contractual relationships with Sage.   I know that several of our ISVs do not have contractual relationships with Sage for certain.   Many of our members are merely certified consultants and have no official partnership with Sage as well!   A couple of questions:

     - Has Sage signed a contract for the sponsorship and does it state anywhere that their exclusivity is for anything other than ERP publisher?

     - I would recommend you ask Dianetta where this request was coming from as it is the first time Sage has ever made such a request.

    This is due to the bad blood that was created last year when Sage required a third party to pay 20+% of all revenue to Sage in order to work with Intacct.  My personal approach would be to try and possibly appease Sage by clearly indicating which sponsors are Sage Partners as an elevation of their status while non-partner sponsors would not get the badge.  This as their money grab with ISVs is pure bullying.



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    Gary Feldman
    Principal
    I-Business Network
    Marietta GA
    16786270646
    http://www-i-bn.net
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  • 3.  RE: Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 15:12
    Ditto what Gary said. 

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    Robert Wood
    352-615-5898

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  • 4.  RE: Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 15:14

    I do not have the signed Agreement back from Sage - but have multiple emails with the commitment  (including that one) and the payment is being processed.  It only allows for exclusive ERP publishers and nothing else.  

    Both Ebiz and Sage agreements are attached.  Ebiz has been signed and returned.  



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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds Inc.
    Sunset Beach CA
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  • 5.  RE: Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 15:19

    I'm at a loss for words.  



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 6.  RE: Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 16:00

    An update - LOL

     – It was explained to me that many companies that are members of 90 Minds may not have contractual relationships with Sage as you've noted. Please understand that this isn't my challenging you or the board, it's more of a matter of the status of the relationship.

     I don't want this to snowball into an issue with the partners, so I wanted to clarify.  Having their booth positioned away from Sage is a good approach for this event.



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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds Inc.
    Sunset Beach CA
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  • 7.  RE: Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 16:10

    Agreed on positioning.  At the ITA I spoke with TJ and asked about the situation.  He seemed to understand this as a business decision by Sage and the eBiz charge would love to have a contractual relationship with Sage under mutually agreeable terms. 

    For now it probably makes them more competitive in the market.  Although Sage sent notices to all eBiz customers on Intacct, they are still operating in that environment to my knowledge and are making inroads in other products.

    Also, Russ Graf has left Calvalo and is now with eBiz Charge and will likely attend 90Minds again.



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    Gary Feldman
    Principal
    I-Business Network
    Marietta GA
    16786270646
    http://www-i-bn.net
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  • 8.  RE: Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 16:13
     I cannot keep up with Russ... I think this is company number three since I met him. 

    Anne Sawyer, Executive Director
    anne.sawyer@90minds.com
    90 Minds, Inc.

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  • 9.  RE: Sage Request

    Posted 11-17-2023 16:19

    I'm glad you got it resolved. Nobody likes a bully.



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    Karen O'Lane
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
    kolane@asifocus.com
    559-448-0900
    559-577-4142
    90 Minds Secretary
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