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Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

  • 1.  Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 06-08-2022 14:31
    User continues to encounter paperless errors.  After several attempts at printing, paperless finally works.  In previous troubleshooting attempts, I focused on the TS workstation it was running on.  Uninstalling/reinstalling the driver works temporarily, then returns.

    Has anyone encountered similar issue.

    Jeff

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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 2.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 06-08-2022 17:20
    I did the paperless uninstall'reinstall drill from the users remote app launcher.  In the past, I always did this drill from the actual TS.  This worked for me.  I am hoping it will work for the client tomorrow.

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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 3.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 06-09-2022 23:57
    Back to this one.  Found an article regarding the Paperless driver on a WIN 10 workstation discussing the registry entry below.  I am troubleshooting a terminal server 2019 Standard paperless issue.  Is this entry relevant to server 2019?  For the life of me, I cannot get it to register when installing the Sage client.  Should I be concerned about its MIA status?



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 4.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 06-10-2022 09:24

    Sage released some new drivers for the Paperless / Amyuni drivers for version 2019.5 and newer. Do you have those newer drivers installed on your version?

    I've noticed lately that the registry entry is not there. Those newer drivers seem to have resolved the issue with windows updates removing that registry entry, so I've assumed that the newer drivers don't need or use that registry entry any longer. It is probably documented somewhere but I haven't not seen that.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • 5.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 06-10-2022 09:35
    With the updated Sage 100 PDF Converter the Windows Registry entry has moved from HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG to HKEY_CURRENT_USER.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 6.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 06-10-2022 09:40

    Thanks Doug!

     

     

     

    David Overholt

    DWD Technology Group, Inc.

    9921 Dupont Circle Drive West, Suite 300 | Fort Wayne, IN 46825

    260.423.2414 main

    800.232.8913 toll free

    sagesupport@dwdtechgroup.com

    www.dwdtechgroup.com

     






  • 7.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 06-10-2022 10:46
    Edited by Carmen Cruz 06-10-2022 10:50
    Here you go. ;)

    Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Terminal Server Client\Default\AddIns\RDPDR\Sage 100 PDF Converter
    Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Sage 100 PDF Converter



    Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Hardware Profiles\Current\Software\Sage 100 PDF Converter 
    (THIS IS THE MAIN ONE)




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    Carmen Cruz
    Sage Consultant
    CompuData
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  • 8.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 06-10-2022 12:05
    Thanks all.  No call from client this AM.  Will let things be for a bit.......

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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 9.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-07-2022 21:54
    It's backkkkkkkk.....  

    FYI-I'm still getting the printer error code about once a day, all different modules so it's not fixed. I've gotten the error 4 times today. Twice when I was trying to print PR DD stubs. The third time was the charm.

    The local workstation running Sage as the Remote Desktop APP has a couple offline printer
    Reviewing the printers available to Sage for use, there are several redirected printers displayed.

    Why are the issues random - Third time was the charm???  Would it not be logical that once it breaks, it stays broken?

    Bout ready to punt this one to Sage.....

    TIA




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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 10.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-08-2022 08:52
    1. Please post the exact error
    2. These paperless issues remind me of FRx. You could install it pretty easily but getting it to work (for some) took one of several various patches - and it never seemed to be the same patch for everyone.
    3. Verify that you installed the amyuni update and re-ran workstation setup ( as administrator ) after the patch

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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 11.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-08-2022 11:55
    Printer error 30

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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 12.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-08-2022 12:43

    I had/have almost this exact situation with a user printing statements. I believe they are on 2018 and I've wrestled with all the usual suspects. They print statements once a month so my window of time to get "the call" is every 30 days.

    From memory I also looked at the registry and verified permissions on the below registry to be sure USERS had all access 

    This is in addition to reviewing the version of the Sage PDF driver and re-installing the Sage PDF driver

    The symptoms seem to match yours - ie very sporadic - although this customer is likely on an older release ( 2018 )  than yours 



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 13.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-08-2022 13:39
    Thanks Wayne for replying.  Nothing new here.  Think is is time to kick it up to Sage as they get the big buck.  Maybe they will find something new.... Not sure how to delete the printers that are redirected as I don't see where to configure the desktop app connection to not allow redirected printers.  Not sure if that is even an issue.

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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 14.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-08-2022 13:43
    I think there's a spot on the RDP client to allow or disallow use of remote printers and that's how you get the redirected out 


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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 15.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-08-2022 14:37
    Edited by Jeff Schwenk 07-09-2022 11:34
    There is indeed.  But if you are running Sage as a remote app, there is an icon that launches Sage.  I see no way to edit the app icon.  Perhaps user does not have rights to edit.  Like your great uncle Sgt Schultz, I know NOTHING about apps.  Is there an edit function on the icon?



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 16.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-09-2022 11:12

    Take a look at this article that we usually refer to for addressing Paperless Printing issues:
    https://support.gotomyerp.com/portal/en/kb/articles/addressing-paperless-office-printer-problems

    As it relates to removing one printer with the normal printer redirection, that is not possible, unless you are using a 3rd party, like TSPrint or similar.

    Another item that I don't believe you mentioned you tried (also in the article). Make sure that the local workstations do not have any of the following printers locally installed:

    • Sage 100 PDF Converter
    • ABS PDF Driver
    • Amyuni Document Converter 500
    Getting those redirected through an RDP session, even for one user, will break it for all users.
    To check this easily, make sure that ALL the Sage users are logged and then go to Print Management ( in Administrative Tools ) (Make sure the user is part of the "Print Operators" group, or they will not be able to see all the user's printers)
    Now find any users that may have any of the above printers listed there with the word (redirected #).

    You can then map their session number to the user and find their workstation. 

    All the above is in the article I shared.

    Good luck!

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    George Khairallah
    CTO | gotomyerp, LLC
    george.k@gotomyerp.com |
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  • 17.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-09-2022 11:38
    Thanks @George Khairallah - I do have a copy of your KB from an earlier post and reviewed the steps outlined.  I will review again.  Has this one been updated?


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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
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  • 18.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-09-2022 12:01

    I don't believe we have updated it as of recently.

    I think we do need to update it though, mostly regarding the new locations of the registries, will do that soon.

    I just was listing a couple of the items that you hadn't mentioned in the thread, in case you hadn't tried them.

    Another point to think about, though may not be relevant if they are connecting from within the LAN:
    Printing (aka Previewing in the RemoteApp world) is very dependent on a stable Upload speed, so if that is shaky, for any users, that could cause these kinds of issues as well.  



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    George Khairallah
    CTO | gotomyerp, LLC
    george.k@gotomyerp.com |
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  • 19.  RE: Sage remote user running v2021 as desktop app having continueal paperless Issue

    Posted 07-11-2022 13:09
    I seem to remember a reference to Printer Error -30 being a timeout issue, which can easily change with the environment.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
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