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  • 1.  Sage Premium move

    Posted 06-29-2023 12:18

    Hi All,

       I have a client on premium that will be moving to the cloud.  I have done this before using @Carmen Cruz  way of doing the move.  Their IT asked me a question that I am unsure of.  They wanted to know if for the go live data move (after the initial more for testing, the client has 17 mods and worldwide users so testing is critical) a incremental restore of the SQL databases could be done.  It doesn't seem to me like this would work as I am sure there will be backups between the time of the initial move and the final move.  I full backup / restore seems like the only option to me..



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    Bob Osborn
    Consultant
    ACI Consulting
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  • 2.  RE: Sage Premium move

    Posted 06-30-2023 01:32

    Hi Bob - You're right they cannot do an incremental restore of the SQL DBs. 



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    Alnoor Cassim
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  • 3.  RE: Sage Premium move

    Posted 07-01-2023 19:28

    HI Alnoor

     Thanks for confirming!

     

    Thank you,

     

    Bob Osborn

    ACI Consulting

    p 714.282.0378     f 714.282.0235

     

    Bob@ACIconsulting.com

     

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  • 4.  RE: Sage Premium move

    Posted 07-05-2023 09:38
    Hi Alnoor,
    You can in fact do incremental's. You'll end up with a file that has a TRN extension and then it has a bunch of little backups in a list with the time that would be restored as well to prior to time of issue that occurred that caused requirement to restore.  For example, we run our back ups every 15 minutes. I once, in fact, had to do a restore, I restored the main TRN and then it has each level of the backup for every 15 minutes. We determined what time the client crashed and then we restored prior to that restoration timeline. It was a pain because you have to do what appears to be multiple restores to get them all back in place.  They have to be done in order and as said before they need to know what they are doing. Should they attempt to do a restore this way.


    Carmen Cruz
    Sage Consultant
    carmen.cruz@compudata.com
    215-969-1000 Ext. 279
    www.compudata.com
    Work Smarter... Together 

    CompuData, Inc. • 325 Chestnut St, Ste 700 • Philadelphia • PA • 19106





  • 5.  RE: Sage Premium move

    Posted 07-05-2023 10:05

    Incremental backups are a great way to preserve more up-to-the-minute SQL data without repeatedly backing everything up.  Basically, you take a full backup, then each incremental backup after that only has the "changes" made after the last backup (either full or incremental).  After you do another full backup, all the old incremental backups become obsolete.  To restore, you start with the full, then apply the incrementals (in order, up to the point you want), then say "I'm done restoring files" so the restored database can be used.

    It depends on the situation here as to whether incremental backups can be used.  If anything has been done on the "target" system after the original restore, or another full backup has been done at the "source", it would not work at a technical level (in SQL). 

    If you are doing a move and upgrade at the same time, Alnoor's response is 100% accurate.  As soon as anything is done on the target system (i.e. system file conversion) you break the incremental restore chain.



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 6.  RE: Sage Premium move

    Posted 07-05-2023 09:31
    Hi Rob,
    Actually, here at Compudata, we actually do incremental backups for our clients who are on the cloud. It does work however, if someone has to do a restore. However, they better know what they're doing because if the files are not restored correctly, it will damage the data, however, incremental can be used. I have restored via Incrementals, It's kind of weird, but it does work. If you want to talk to you have my number take care, everyone 

    Carmen Cruz
    Sage Consultant
    carmen.cruz@compudata.com
    215-969-1000 Ext. 279
    www.compudata.com
    Work Smarter... Together 

    CompuData, Inc. • 325 Chestnut St, Ste 700 • Philadelphia • PA • 19106