Sage 100

Sage is set to discuss their upcoming Industry Solutions for Sage 100 and Sage 300 today during a 1 pm webinar for partners. If you attended any of the Thrive On events you probably have already seen this. The detail I haven't seen yet is a discussion of pricing.

On February 26, 2020, Sage will introduce two new Industry Solutions for Sage 100cloud: Sage 100cloud for Distribution and Sage 100cloud for Manufacturing.

Register Here

Sage has made a big effort to NOT refer to this as a bundle.....but rather as a solution....




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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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I hope it doesn't work out like EES.  For my clients, that was like buying a mansion in Mississippi.  Great, you got a good deal, and live large, but when you decide to move from MI, don't expect to live in a mansion anymore unless you pay through the nose.  They're just stuck in perpetual EES license Mississippi because the comparable 100c bundle (ooh, the B word) costs a fortune.

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Rhonda McNamara
Customer Success Manager
Stewart Technologies, Inc.
rsm@stewarttechnologies.com
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I felt like EES failed because Sage mis-priced the bundle. It was significantly cheaper for many of my customers to migrate and I moved as many as I could before they shut down EES.

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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-20-2020 09:21
From: Rhonda McNamara
Subject: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

I hope it doesn't work out like EES.  For my clients, that was like buying a mansion in Mississippi.  Great, you got a good deal, and live large, but when you decide to move from MI, don't expect to live in a mansion anymore unless you pay through the nose.  They're just stuck in perpetual EES license Mississippi because the comparable 100c bundle (ooh, the B word) costs a fortune.

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Rhonda McNamara
Customer Success Manager
Stewart Technologies, Inc.
rsm@stewarttechnologies.com
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YOU get an ERP .  And YOU get an ERP!

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Rhonda McNamara
Customer Success Manager
Stewart Technologies, Inc.
rsm@stewarttechnologies.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-20-2020 09:51
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

I felt like EES failed because Sage mis-priced the bundle. It was significantly cheaper for many of my customers to migrate and I moved as many as I could before they shut down EES.

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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-20-2020 09:21
From: Rhonda McNamara
Subject: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

I hope it doesn't work out like EES.  For my clients, that was like buying a mansion in Mississippi.  Great, you got a good deal, and live large, but when you decide to move from MI, don't expect to live in a mansion anymore unless you pay through the nose.  They're just stuck in perpetual EES license Mississippi because the comparable 100c bundle (ooh, the B word) costs a fortune.

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Rhonda McNamara
Customer Success Manager
Stewart Technologies, Inc.
rsm@stewarttechnologies.com

The idea of EES and Industry Solutions is not bad if you need the bundle. EES was a push for CRM which many customers benefited from and others overpaid for.

It is interesting in that bundles are growing in concept around the industry, but are also a throwback to “sell as much as you can up from because the customer may not buy later” mindset.

We will be discussing this and similar thoughts in the Selling Solutions in a Subscription Marketplace MOTM session on Saturday.

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Gary Feldman
President
I-Business Network, LLC
Marietta GA
6786270646 x224
http://www.i-bn.com/
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What Sage lacks is stewardship for their product(s). With the 3-4 year rotation their execs have been on there is nobody planning the long term future for products.

I hope Sage has an answer to “what will be different about this solution “bundle” vs EES?”

Will people go out and get a production management and Sage alerts certification? Yeah some will. Will they make $? Not unless they support more than one or two ( tip: every bar thinks they’re going to do dozens and dozens ). Tip2: there is so little margin in selling that if you get certified you best be planning to sell significant consulting





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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-22-2020
From: Gary Feldman
Subject: RE: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

The idea of EES and Industry Solutions is not bad if you need the bundle. EES was a push for CRM which many customers benefited from and others overpaid for.

It is interesting in that bundles are growing in concept around the industry, but are also a throwback to “sell as much as you can up from because the customer may not buy later” mindset.

We will be discussing this and similar thoughts in the Selling Solutions in a Subscription Marketplace MOTM session on Saturday.

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Gary Feldman
President
I-Business Network, LLC
Marietta GA
6786270646 x224
http://www.i-bn.com/
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Will there be any management there who will know what EES was?

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Phil McIntosh
President
Friendly Systems, Inc.
Asheville NC
678.273.4010 ext 5
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-22-2020 10:06
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

What Sage lacks is stewardship for their product(s). With the 3-4 year rotation their execs have been on there is nobody planning the long term future for products.

I hope Sage has an answer to "what will be different about this solution "bundle" vs EES?"

Will people go out and get a production management and Sage alerts certification? Yeah some will. Will they make $? Not unless they support more than one or two ( tip: every bar thinks they're going to do dozens and dozens ). Tip2: there is so little margin in selling that if you get certified you best be planning to sell significant consulting





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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-22-2020
From: Gary Feldman
Subject: RE: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

The idea of EES and Industry Solutions is not bad if you need the bundle. EES was a push for CRM which many customers benefited from and others overpaid for.

It is interesting in that bundles are growing in concept around the industry, but are also a throwback to "sell as much as you can up from because the customer may not buy later" mindset.

We will be discussing this and similar thoughts in the Selling Solutions in a Subscription Marketplace MOTM session on Saturday.

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Gary Feldman
President
I-Business Network, LLC
Marietta GA
6786270646 x224
http://www.i-bn.com/
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Yes, but they'll deny it.

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Moira Goggin
Executive Director
90 Minds, Inc.
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-24-2020 08:41
From: Phil McIntosh
Subject: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

Will there be any management there who will know what EES was?

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Phil McIntosh
President
Friendly Systems, Inc.
Asheville NC
678.273.4010 ext 5
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-22-2020 10:06
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

What Sage lacks is stewardship for their product(s). With the 3-4 year rotation their execs have been on there is nobody planning the long term future for products.

I hope Sage has an answer to "what will be different about this solution "bundle" vs EES?"

Will people go out and get a production management and Sage alerts certification? Yeah some will. Will they make $? Not unless they support more than one or two ( tip: every bar thinks they're going to do dozens and dozens ). Tip2: there is so little margin in selling that if you get certified you best be planning to sell significant consulting





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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990


Original Message:
Sent: 02-22-2020
From: Gary Feldman
Subject: RE: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

The idea of EES and Industry Solutions is not bad if you need the bundle. EES was a push for CRM which many customers benefited from and others overpaid for.

It is interesting in that bundles are growing in concept around the industry, but are also a throwback to "sell as much as you can up from because the customer may not buy later" mindset.

We will be discussing this and similar thoughts in the Selling Solutions in a Subscription Marketplace MOTM session on Saturday.

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Gary Feldman
President
I-Business Network, LLC
Marietta GA
6786270646 x224
http://www.i-bn.com/

Still have not spotted this being released.
The original ship date was supposed to be 2/26/2020. 
I would not be surprised if getting the product into Sage's order entry system is at least part ( if not all ) of the holdup.


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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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I believe @Gil Ponte  may have a recent update on this. ​

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Original Message:
Sent: 02-27-2020 12:49
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: Sage Industry Solutions Webinar Today 2/20/20 1 PM

Still have not spotted this being released.
The original ship date was supposed to be 2/26/2020.
I would not be surprised if getting the product into Sage's order entry system is at least part ( if not all ) of the holdup.


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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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My take away is this is targeted at NEW Sage customers and not upgrades for existing clients.  How many of us are living on new client adds versus maintaining and upgrading the existing base?  I proposed to Timothy Harfield they at least make this available as an option for clients that may be on Essentials looking to add distribution or MFG.

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alan niergarth
Velosio LLC
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