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Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

John Hoyt

John Hoyt10-05-2016 17:45

Gary Feldman

Gary Feldman10-06-2016 10:53

John Hoyt

John Hoyt10-06-2016 13:49

  • 1.  Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-03-2016 13:53
    Sage Communications Has anyone talked to any salespeople at Sage today? Did they get the day off, because I cannot get anyone to call me. And the Dashboard on the portal does not work.


  • 2.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-03-2016 14:10
    Perhaps there was an announcement that we did not see saying there are no more sales people on staff????


  • 3.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-03-2016 14:36
    If no one communicates from Sage, do they still exist?


  • 4.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-03-2016 14:45
    They're probably taking turns manually entering in all those orders that accumulated in the fax machine last week.


  • 5.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-04-2016 14:47
    I talked to them today - they are still entering orders from Friday - manually.


  • 6.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-04-2016 15:50
    One Sage. Gonna do better at consolidating all these different systems. Simplified pricing. Should I go on with the lies or half truths Sage continues to tell every year?


  • 7.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-04-2016 15:59
    There are half truths?? Oh, yeah. If you are happy with your software, we won't force you to upgrade...... But please, continue to pay your annual maintenance.


  • 8.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-04-2016 16:11
    This was my request for discussion at the November BPAC meeting. (Note: Most of my requests in the past from the follow up notes of the meeting are color coded in red, meaning they can't or aren't going to do them.) One important item I want to discuss is the quote/order process and the lack of automation. The weaknesses of the current process were very apparent this last quarter, specifically with regard to migrations to 100c/300c. Although eventually most perpetual customers will be migrated to the c line products, the current process, no matter what is ordered, is primarily manual and postings and communication back to the channel lag. With the c migrations, it was almost impossible to quote a customer without first having it reviewed and approved by the sales advisors (in Atlanta eventually). We then could present this to the customer and wait for a decision and sign the paperwork. We then sent it to the sales advisors for entry and confirmation. This is all very labor intensive and depends on the reliability of e-mail and faxing (for the payment authorization), both of which we had issues with between us and the customers and to Sage. This is actually not that different when ordering standard product, although it is a longer process when working with the customers, and they know the investment at least a week before signing the order. It seems that a large company like Sage should have a more automated process where there are few questions with regard to pricing and the channel is able to do most of the work. Ever since the new portal has been instituted, we have lost much of that capability we previously had.


  • 9.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-04-2016 20:14
    And you are still being asked back...... Amazing!!!!!


  • 10.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-05-2016 13:49
    And the portal dashboard is still wrong. There are postings from 9/30 still trickling in and many items missing or mis-postings. I also don't think the tier and a half has been posted. Is this any way to run a company? And still no one wants to talk to me.


  • 11.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-05-2016 14:14
    Spoke to my RSM this morning. She is as disgusted as we are. Said she spends most of her time apologizing to partners, not helping them with sales. Apparently, the Midwest did not make their sales goals (nor did the West) and she said, ""How can we when partners have no incentive to make sales when nothing gets entered correctly?"" Couldn't disagree....


  • 12.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-05-2016 16:20
    So wait, you are telling me that a Sage 100 to Sage 100c migration promo which makes zero economic sense to customers unless the Sage100c maintenance is < Sage 100 might have caused a drop in revenues? Then have your consultants spend (waste) an hour trying to explain to customers what Sage 100c is and then having customers say ""no thanks we don't trust the year 2 pricing increase possibilities"" when the 100c pricing is > 100. I frankly can't figure out why the quarter could have been so bad....


  • 13.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-05-2016 17:19
    How do they REALLY know if the regions didn't make their quota if all of the sales have not been posted yet???? And to think I just told a prospect that 100c could provide real time sales data.....


  • 14.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-05-2016 17:20
    ... in the cloud (that's what the c in 100c stands for) ...


  • 15.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-05-2016 17:45
    It's starting to stand for comical.


  • 16.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-05-2016 17:51
    Have the musical chair shuffle started yet at Sage. It IS that time of year to pick up the phone and say ""hi"" to your new RSM!


  • 17.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-05-2016 17:56
    Sage is under the mistaken impression that the RSMs can actually motivate the channel to perform and to produce sales on command.


  • 18.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-06-2016 10:41
    So can still buy more user licenses for the old MAS 90 we sold to a customer on premise?


  • 19.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-06-2016 10:49
    As of last week you could. Sage quoted a customer for me. I don't think they will SELL a perpetual installation any longer.


  • 20.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-06-2016 10:50
    1/1/2017 perpetual new sales go away - sales to existing still ok.


  • 21.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-06-2016 10:53
    Until they are not


  • 22.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-06-2016 13:42
    Surprise! The numbers on the Tier Dashboard changed again. (They increased, not decreased, although there's still a chance.) Perhaps we'll make it up to Platinum without doing anything.


  • 23.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-06-2016 13:49
    No word from the RSM on anything.


  • 24.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-06-2016 14:32
    John, are your September sales getting posted to September? Mine are coming in as October.


  • 25.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-06-2016 14:34
    October. I assumed that was because it would cost too much to have SAP make a change to the system, and since at least two regions failed last quarter, there's not enough money for that.


  • 26.  RE: Sage CommunicationsHas anyone talked to any sales

    Posted 10-16-2016 16:51
    The Dashboard has now been last calculated as of 10/15/2016, which on my calendar was yesterday, and the missed sales and tier and a half still are missing. Not that we were in the running, but how can Sage announce the winners of the Partner Salesperson contest if not all is posted? Or perhaps it's just a Portal issue, which is something I haven't mentioned for at least a week.