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  • 1.  Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 10-27-2022 20:52
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    Have encountered an issue after installing the v2022 client on v2016 workstations A crystal form using a Zebra printer is printing incorrectly.  .  First issue is that you have to set your default printer to the Zebra when printing.  If defaulted to an HP AND you change the printer on the fly, it prints using the default printer.  The second and more troubling is the labels print off the right margin and rotated.

    When the form was originally designed, they printed to a dot matrix.  Sometime in the past couple years, they purchased the Zebra  They updated the printer driver today to latest release.

    So did the v2022 install really break this?  If so, I am all ears for suggestions to remedy.  I don't think the form size in the RPT is correct.  I also read that there are better print drivers - Seagull print drivers.

    Help me Crystal BC label gurus...








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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    (540) 221-4444
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  • 2.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 10-27-2022 21:07
    Try File, Page Setup, Page Options, then instead of Japanese Envelope, set up a custom page size slightly smaller than your label.  Also be careful with the margins.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 3.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 10-28-2022 09:05
    @Jeff Schwenk - I've had that rotated first label issue at several other clients, on older versions of Sage.  Seems to have started maybe around 2018 for me.  Sorry, no firm set of instructions to fix and one place I never did (but luckily their labels were 2x2 so it didn't really matter).​

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    Beth Bowers
    (269) 358-0989
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  • 4.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 10-28-2022 09:15
    if the field is rotated 90 degrees ten you could right click on the field in Crystal Designer and rotate it 90 degrees.  This would require rotating every field.  I have seen this when printing forms from the Sage 100 menu.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 5.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 10-28-2022 10:24
    @Beth Bowers - That is very comforting.....  Client is still using v2016​.  I just installed the v2022 client then replaced the v2016 pvxwin32.exe.config file so that Crystal would work in the old version.  The wheels fell off the bus for this one issue.  BTW, what are some things you tried?

    @Doug Higgs - You mention directly from the Sage menu.  What if you printed directly from Crystal Designer?

    Anyone know what the difference between these two drivers are?  They are from Seagull (Bartender) web site.  Several years ago, a tech support person told me the Seagull drivers were much better than Zebra's.  I installed them and my printing problems disappeared.




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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    (540) 221-4444
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  • 6.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 10-28-2022 11:28
    @Jeff Schwenk - verifying the paper layout was correct in Printer Server properties, switching between landscape and portrait - sometimes making them the same in Crystal and printer, sometimes doing the opposite...the weird thing is, if I remember right, is that it PREVIEWS correctly, just prints wrong.​

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    Beth Bowers
    (269) 358-0989
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  • 7.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 10-28-2022 14:17
    Making progress.  The Seagull driver was downloaded and installed.  Crystal form was tweaked for the new driver (shout out to @Doug Higgs).  I tested via Crystal Designer.  Looks great although the print order is reversed from what they are used to (Sigh).  Waiting for their IT to install the Seagull driver on the workstation.  Will test from Sage menu to see how this goes.  Worst case, I install Designer on the workstation for printing labels.  Change is hard for everyone.


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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    (540) 221-4444
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  • 8.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 05-04-2023 10:47

    Need to get back to this.  Client is finally on v2022.  I might try uninstalling v2016 now.  Client wants it working on the Desktop menu so others can print.



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    (540) 221-4444
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  • 9.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 06-14-2023 19:29
    Edited by Jeff Schwenk 06-14-2023 20:03

    More progress.  I have it running as a report under the custom reports menu.  Using Seagull drivers.  I still cannot get it to print in the correct order.  It is printing in reverse order (Pages 10 - 1) instead of pages 1 - 10).  It previews correctly, the actual output is bass ackwards.  

    Also, forgot to mention that it prints backward whether I print via a custom report, a form (picking sheets) or a stand-alone Crystal Designer.  The printer is attached to the network.

    Unfortunately, the printer was discontinued nearly 10 years ago.  A ZPL driver is being used (below),.    Perhaps use the other driver?



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    (540) 221-4444
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  • 10.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 06-15-2023 08:21

    If it's happening everywhere, it's in the driver itself. Is there an option for 'Reverse Order' (or equivalent)?



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    Steve Iwanowski, NextStep Technology Advisors, aka DSD Lancaster PA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  • 11.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 06-15-2023 08:27

    Everywhere.  No options for reverse printing. I did change the setting to output directly to the printer instead of spooling.  Rope is running short.  They may have to either suck it up with the reverse printing or replace the Zelbra printer that has been unsupported for 10 + Years



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    (540) 221-4444
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  • 12.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 06-15-2023 12:04

    The plot thickens.  In discussing the frustrating situation, the user casually mentioned that she changes the printer orientation setting (below) EVERYTIME she prints via Crystal Designer.  I am able to replicate printing via Crystal Designer from the server.  I will follow this down the rabbit hole.



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    (540) 221-4444
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  • 13.  RE: Sage 2016 migration to v2022

    Posted 06-15-2023 12:30

    It has been a while since I encountered this with Zebra printers, but my recollection was that you couldn't start with the standard label design.

    I ended up creating a custom report using a standard report format with crystal.  Mocked it up to look like a label and then copied it over the top of a the  label report that was created by default.



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    Thomas Rogers (TomTarget)
    Target System Technology, Inc.
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