I just met with a prospect that had MAS 90 for years, continued to use it for one division, but they themselves converted to Syspro 5 years ago. I was not going to offer my opinion of Syspro, but they were not shy about theirs. They hate it and want to go back to Sage 100, which is still on subscription under 100c. The division using it was sold to a UK company who uses some form of Sage, and will let the division continue to use 100c. So one of the two now has to license a new copy. I win!