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Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

  • 1.  Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 14:07
    Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for multi-currency are there any gotcha's about use of Sage 100 for company based in Canada. It seems like 300 has the market share there.


  • 2.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 14:12
    David Kllbourn is in CA and may be able to answer this. He works with Sage 100. I'm not sure if he checks in here often so you might try davidk@brig.ca


  • 3.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 14:55
    Unless the Canadian company using Sage 100 transacts business in other than Canadian dollars, multi-currency isn't necessary. Sage 100 will work splendidly in any currency as long as the masking is sufficient.


  • 4.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 14:56
    I don't have any direct experience using Sage 100 in Canada, but have used it in the UK with British Pounds.


  • 5.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 15:38
    Sage 100 works fine for Canadian companies with DSD's multi-currency as as they don't need in house payroll.


  • 6.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 15:42
    Doesn't Canada also have VAT/GST taxing.? Or something along those lines.


  • 7.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 15:58
    Don't need multi currency if you only do business in one currency. You can use the Sage sales tax for vat.


  • 8.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 16:00
    Correct, our clients have typically been located in Canada but buying from and selling to US so multi-currency has been required.


  • 9.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-19-2017 18:32
    We have a customer that was US based with a Canadian operation, and Avalara worked well for all of the sales tax and Harmonized Sales Tax (HST) which combines the federal and provincial sales taxes into one.


  • 10.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-20-2017 05:20
    Thanks for the comments. The company will need at least US and Canadian. Conveniently they use Avalara with their main corporate ERP system but are looking at 100 for this subsidiary and wanted something that Avalara integrates with for taxes.


  • 11.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-20-2017 10:31
    Works fine. We have many Canadian customers. Things like EFT are different, and there is no payroll, but the taxes are *much* easier to configure.


  • 12.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-20-2017 10:36
    (Sage 300 has the market share here because Sage refuses to promote 100 in Canada... Summit in Toronto this year, exactly zero Sage 100 content... grumbles).


  • 13.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-20-2017 10:44
    My guess is Sage doesn't view 100 as a global product because it doesn't have native multi-currency. I am sure there are marketing reasons (product positioning) behind not having native features such as multi-currency, multi-bin, enhanced drop ship history, etc. If these features were available in 100 there would be much fewer sales of more expensive products such as X3.


  • 14.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-20-2017 10:55
    MAS 90 was originally intended to be a US product. In those days, there were not as many customers that had foreign subsidiaries or traded outside the country, so multi-currency was not a major requirement. This need has increased drastically. As with any business and accounting evolution, it was Sage's responsibility to enhance the product to meet these requirements. They failed in this with many functions, so we constantly hit walls. The answer is not to introduce another ERP system in my opinion. I actually see 300 being in a bad position. If 100 is enhanced to provide similar functionality and/or X3 develops a ""lite"" version to penetrate the smaller customers (not talked about as far as I know), then where does that leave them, except for countries outside North America?


  • 15.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-20-2017 10:56
    A Sage 100 customer will just as likely go to non-Sage instead of a higher tier product. We've had customers come to us after prolonged, costly and frustrating failed Sage 300 implementations, and gotten them running in a month on 100. Of course, this is totally lost on Sage. I don't think they even want to look at the potential sales they are losing. Multi-language is also an issue, with Quebec / French language laws.


  • 16.  RE: Sage 100 use in Canada? Outside of the need for m

    Posted 07-20-2017 11:09
    There was a MAS 90 Canadian edition that was developed and released in the early 90s. The manuals were distinguished by a maple leaf watermark. When Accpac was acquired by Sage, the Canadian MAS 90 edition quietly faded to memory.