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SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

  • 1.  SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 05-30-2025 14:55

    Since the end of April, my client is getting random Input/Output errors on the most used (SAGE 100) Windows 11 workstation. There are two other workstations that access SAGE and they do not get these errors.  Outside IT guy has rebuilt/created Windows 11 user profile (did not resolve) and then wiped and completely reinstall Windows 11.  On the problem workstation the IT guy has SentinelOne managed anti-virus and something called "BlackFog".  I have attached several SAGE 100 System Activity Logs for May, with the Error codes highlighted.

     Looking for ideas! Have a GREAT Weekend.



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    Michael McDonald - Consultant
    Michael T McDonald CPA
    (616) 813-8887 - mike@mcdcpa.com
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  • 2.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 05-30-2025 15:02
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    According to the attached article renaming SY_Console.M4TSY_Activitylog.M4T and SY_Workstation.M4T files may help.



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
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    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 3.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 05-31-2025 13:15

    Is .Net 3.5 active on the workstations?  For WIN 11, it is not by default.



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    Jeff Schwenk
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    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    (540) 221-4444

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  • 4.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 06-01-2025 10:54

    Thank you @Jeff Schwenk for this information. I will check with the outside IT guy. However, isn't .Net 3.5 one of the v2023 Workstation install prerequisites?  I would expect the workstation install program would automatically download, install and ACTIVATE .Net 3.5.



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    Michael McDonald - Consultant
    Michael T McDonald CPA
    (616) 813-8887 - mike@mcdcpa.com
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  • 5.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 06-01-2025 11:25

    @Michael McDonald - Forever the Pollyanna.....  Easy enough to check without the IT guy's assistance.  It is viewable via the control panel, 

    Only need to activate the top line.  The two sublines don't need to be activated.



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Owner
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    (540) 221-4444

    Improving bottom lines for over 25 years!
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  • 6.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 06-01-2025 10:47

    Thank you @Doug Higgs for sharing this SAGE Technical Article. I will rename the SY_Console.M4T, SY_ActivityLog.M4T and SY_Workstation.M4T files Monday evening after all users go home. 



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    Michael McDonald - Consultant
    Michael T McDonald CPA
    (616) 813-8887 - mike@mcdcpa.com
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  • 7.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 06-21-2025 13:06

    Followed the steps in the SAGE KB and renamed SY_Console.M4TSY_ActivityLog.M4T and SY_Workstation.M4T files. Followed @Jeff Schwenk advice and made sure .Net 3.5 was active on the troublesome Win 11 workstation. Thought the issue was fixed because user went for four whole workdays before the SAGE System Activity Log recorded another Input/Output Error on Friday (6/6) morning around 10:00am. Then the next Tuesday (6/10) around 10:00am another on Friday (6/13) around 10:00 am. Is this a pattern? Finally last Friday (6/20) user reported not an Input/Output Error, but an Error 278 SY_Session.pvc while accessing the Payroll module at 2:30 in the afternoon.  Is there a Win 11 event log that I can look at to see if this troublesome workstation is having network connectivity issues? The two other (less used) SAGE 100 workstations are not experiencing these errors.  TIA for your ideas. 



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    Michael McDonald - Consultant
    Michael T McDonald CPA
    (616) 813-8887 - mike@mcdcpa.com
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  • 8.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 06-21-2025 22:23
    Edited by Alnoor Cassim 06-21-2025 22:31

    Michael to answer your question:

    1. As you said, review the Event Viewer logs for the same day/time as the error 278. Click Start, then start typing "event viewer" and it will appear, or you can do Windows + R and type eventvwr.msc at the Run prompt. Then look at the Windows Logs and the Application and Services Logs categories.

    2. For any error over 256, you take the error number and subtract 256 to come up with, in this case, "operating system error code 12". So put that in your favorite AI prompt or google it.

    3. Error 278 is in the Sage KB but it just tells you to rebuild sort files for P/R in this case, FWIW.

    4. I might've seen this error on Standard (Mas90) version a decade ago. I have a vague memory that I changed their Sage icon / shortcut to use a mapped drive from a UNC path (both the Target and Start In fields).

    Hope that helps!



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    Alnoor Cassim
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
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  • 9.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 06-22-2025 12:46

    Thank you @Alnoor Cassim. I viewed the Win 11 Event Log and found that every time this Win 11 workstation had an Input/Output error or other type of error while running SAGE 100 STD, they all started like this:  1).NET Runtime, followed by 2) Application Error and 3) Application Error. @Jeff Schwenk recommended that I check this workstation to make sure that .NET 3.5 was properly installed and active. I believe that .Net 3.5 is installed and active on this Win 11 workstation. Maybe there is an updated version available? I do not possess IT skills. I have attached details of this Win 11 Event Log.



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    Michael McDonald - Consultant
    Michael T McDonald CPA
    (616) 813-8887 - mike@mcdcpa.com
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  • 10.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 06-22-2025 13:10

    Michael - For both logs, the 1st error in the series of the 3 consecutive errors is the root error, meaning it causes the next 2 errors (which are a red herring). See below and get IT involved again. You can see this is not a Sage issue. Also note what I said about point 4 above. They (or you if you're comfortable) can do #4 as an easy starting point for troubleshooting.

    Event 1005, Application Error
    General Details
    Windows cannot access the file for one of the following reasons: there is a problem with the network connection, the disk that the file is stored on, or the storage drivers installed on this computer, or the disk is missing. Windows closed the program Sage 100 because of this error.
    Program: Sage 100
    File:
    Log Name:    Application
    Source    Application Error    Logged:    6/20/2025 2:2601 PM
    Event ID:    1005    Task Category: Application Crashing    Events
    Level:    Error    Keywords:
    User:    BEUSCHELSALES\beuschel Computer    Kathy-PC.BeuschelSales.local
    OpCode:    Info
    More Information: Event Loa Online Help



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    Alnoor Cassim
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
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  • 11.  RE: SAGE 100 STD v2023 PU0 - Input/Output Error on one of three Win11 workstations.

    Posted 06-22-2025 13:19

    @Alnoor Cassim Thank you for your Sunday reply! I will definitely perform your recommended step #4 - Change from UNC path to a Mapped drive in the SAGE 100 STD Shortcut.  With your comments I feel confident to ask the outside IT guy to get involved again. Thanks for all your help! 



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    Michael McDonald - Consultant
    Michael T McDonald CPA
    (616) 813-8887 - mike@mcdcpa.com
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