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Question for the Partners who do Dynamics in addition to MAS 90/200 What's the deal with the $3,000 promo Microsoft has going on (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/dynamics/erp-sales-offer.aspx)? What does that include / not include relative to the standard MAS 90 user-based pricing? Would like to be able to compare apples to apples.

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It's a bit different for each Dynamics product and doesn't include AX. For NAV you get either ""BE"" Or Business Essentials or you get AM or Advanced Management. In NAV, AM gives you many of the manufacturing components, intercompany and consolidations, full CRM (Nav's built in CRM) vs. just contact management etc. You might say, why wouldn't everyone choose AM? Because the maintenance is based on the SLP and BE is $2,200 per concurrent user while AM is about $3750. In a way its a little like Sage's move ot subscription pricing. It's to get more customers paying annual maintenance. With NAV there are still some optional components. If your a manufacturer for example, it doesn't include Kanban, MRP, kitting an a bunch of other stuff. We are finding that a real 5 user deal for a manufacturer is more like $15k, but that's alot cheaper than the normal 25-30k It also gives us an excuse to the prospect not to do on-site demos since the software margin is so small. Relative to MAS, you get pretty much everything MAS has + Finite capacity scheduling A sophisticated Dimensional based GL architecture Full multicurrency multi-bin WMS (with optional costs for hand helds Shop floor control 3 step warehouse transfers Something akin to Jobops's Component Exception Manager Available to promise, capable to promise container tracking true landed cost management Field and bench service management Fully same code base CRM for customers, vendors and prospects With crm full server side synchronization with Exchange Bulletproof SQL with full commit-rollback and versioning (i.e. no data corruption other than bad programmers) And probably a ton more stuff I can't think of off the top of my head.

Oh and a system that just got a fully new UI, A new full web client option and a product that is not essentially End of Life...And a mere 16% maintenance. (We do all our own support and don't have to compete with Microsoft on that)

Good info, @MarkChinsky - although I probably should have specified Dynamics GP.

Really curious how MAS 90/.200 Partners are competing with this $3k deal.

I think, other than the fact that GP has intercompany processing in BE, and much less overall manufacturing functionality (still better than stock MAS90's which isn't saying much), the rest is pretty much on target. This is another reason I haven't sold a net new MAS in like 2 years and have no prospects. Why vs. this?

Have none of the MAS 90/200 partners here had to go up against the $3k Dynamics GP promo?

Better question, what percent of the members have been engaged in a net new name opportunity (without it being a referral) since the promo started in November??

Even findaccountingsoftware.com leads have practically dried up in my neck of the woods. Any other participants notice this?