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  • 1.  Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-10-2024 11:19

    How to use Process Monitor to verify Anti-Virus (including Windows Defender) is not monitoring Sage 100 or Paperless Office PDF files

    The above is from Sage Community.  Anyone installed this before?  What are your thoughts?  I always have doubts when the IT group tells me "no, AV isn't running live on Sage" and then find out it is.



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    Jane Scanlan
    Partner
    Next Level Manufacturing Consulting Group
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  • 2.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-10-2024 11:54

    I've had Sage suggest this to one of my customers with a very sophisticated IT department. The IT department had no problem using it but they were somewhat skeptical they would be able to find anything because of how much data the process monitor captured. 

    As they say " Trust but verify " ....



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    CT
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  • 3.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-10-2024 13:35

    Powerful tool... but not very user friendly. 

    Finding something = proof. 

    Not finding something = maybe yes / no... because you are hunting for a needle in a big haystack.



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 4.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-10-2024 13:44

    We used Zabbix, a Linux based open source monitoring software.  You can monitor any process including pvxwin32.exe 



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    Gary Feldman
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    I-Business Network
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    16786270646
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  • 5.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-11-2024 12:22

    Jane - It was used by a consultant here on 90M fairly recently to in fact detect and prove to a client's IT that AV was scanning Sage files. I believe this Sage Community post is a KB entry too and she sent them the KB article and IT followed the steps, not she herself. 

    For myself, I've used ProcMon a lot but to everyone's point is most effective when you're looking for something very specific, otherwise it's a big morass of wading thru traced process data. A good example of where to use it is when you're suspecting permissions errors. The ProcMon result column will show ACCESS DENIED on usually a pvxwin32.exe process and now there is irrefutable proof. I usually save the trace file to CSV, open it in Excel, re-sort the columns so the ACCESS DENIED  entries appear at the top. Hope that helps.



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    Alnoor Cassim
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
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  • 6.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-11-2024 13:54

    When I was wearing an "IT" hat, I used Process Monitor all the time, and even recently recommended it to find out which reg keys Sage was using for Product Updates.

    I wanted to note that you do not need to install it, and can grab it (and may other cool utilities, such as autoruns, process explorer, autologin, ZoomIt, etc) directly from the https://live.sysinternals.com site (or even typing \\live.sysinternals.com in Windows Explorer). 



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    Steve Iwanowski, NextStep Technology Advisors, aka DSD Lancaster PA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  • 7.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-11-2024 14:15

    Steve - Right on! Better to download the whole SysInternals suite of utilities. This might be a good topic to add to the MotM 2025 Tips & Tricks session too.



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    Alnoor Cassim
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
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  • 8.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-12-2024 01:25

    Great info to post in a survey coming to gather tips and tricks!



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    [Michele] [Herzog] [CPA,CITP, CGMA]
    [Overland Park] [KS]
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  • 9.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-12-2024 08:44

    I had to download a zip file of executables to get this process monitor, and yeah, @Kevin Moyes it is hunting for a needle in a big haystack.  But, at least I have something to look through on my hunt for this customer's random issues.  I'm going to start another post with another subject.  



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    Jane Scanlan
    Partner
    Next Level Manufacturing Consulting Group
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  • 10.  RE: Process Monitor - has anyone installed this at a client?

    Posted 12-13-2024 08:00

    The way I typically work with it is to "capture" before and after I perform an action, and then right-click on specific values in their columns (that I know are irrelevant) to "exclude" them. Slowly takes away some of the haystack....



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    Steve Iwanowski, NextStep Technology Advisors, aka DSD Lancaster PA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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