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  • 1.  Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:29
    Edited by Moira Goggin 12-02-2020 17:26
    Here we go, let's see what we learn today.

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    Moira Goggin
    Chismet Consulting Corp.
    Long Beach CA
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  • 2.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:36
    Edited by Moira Goggin 12-02-2020 17:26
    Partner is the "managed service provider".  What do we need Sage for then?

    ...and "owns" the Azure infrastructure.  They are losing me quickly.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 3.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:37
    The chance to Earn Tier Credit will be a driver for this program.

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    Moira Goggin
    Chismet Consulting Corp.
    Long Beach CA
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  • 4.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:38
    Lets see what the certification requirement entails....is it worth it???

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    Lourdes Sobrino
    LU² DSD Puerto Rico
    Guaynabo Puerto Rico
    787.485.9638
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  • 5.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:40
    ahhh... only annual subscriptions???? -1 point...

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    Lourdes Sobrino
    LU² DSD Puerto Rico
    Guaynabo Puerto Rico
    787.485.9638
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  • 6.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:40
    This pricing look more like Intacct than Sage 100





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    Moira Goggin
    Chismet Consulting Corp.
    Long Beach CA
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  • 7.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:43
    Unlimited anytime learning included - it may be a plus for some customers.  I prefer to provide custom training - what's about everyone else?  Do you send customers to SageU or do your own training for them?

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    Moira Goggin
    Chismet Consulting Corp.
    Long Beach CA
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  • 8.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:50
    If a customer's license lapses and goes 'read-only' on a Sage Partner Cloud, will the customer be completely locked out of their 'read-only' data?  I posted this question on the chat, we'll see if they address it.

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    Moira Goggin
    Chismet Consulting Corp.
    Long Beach CA
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  • 9.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:55
    mandatory upgrades, within 12 months of a major release.

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    Moira Goggin
    Chismet Consulting Corp.
    Long Beach CA
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  • 10.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 14:58
    Heavy on restrictions and responsibilities, light on benefits.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 11.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 15:04
    If you wanted to do this for customers, why wouldn't you just do it yourself and not have to deal with Sage's bureaucracy about it?  And if you don't want to do it yourself, why join a beta program instead of one of the companies that have been hosting Sage 100 for years?

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    Phil McIntosh
    President
    Friendly Systems, Inc.
    Asheville NC
    678.273.4010 ext 5
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  • 12.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 15:26
    Doesn't know that Standard / Advanced / Premium are separate from module packages.
    *eyeroll*

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 13.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 15:27
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    Slides, I think I caught most of them:


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    Moira Goggin
    Chismet Consulting Corp.
    Long Beach CA
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  • 14.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 15:31
    I am still not convinced.....if the current customer that are on Azure give me little hassle...why get involved??? If it ain't broken...don't fix it....

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    Lourdes Sobrino
    LU² DSD Puerto Rico
    Guaynabo Puerto Rico
    787.485.9638
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  • 15.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 15:41
    Thank you for that, Moira!  I missed the first 15 minutes.  Did Sage address what I see in the customer letter mockup - rebranding Sage 100 to drop the word Cloud?  And then are they bringing it back if you have this hosted version?  (Gosh I hope not.)
    I'd also like to learn what this has to offer over existing hosting options.
    Also, is it Sage or partner who would provision the server?
    That first 15 minutes was kinda a big deal.

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    Rhonda McNamara
    Customer Success Manager
    Stewart Technologies, Inc.
    rsm@stewarttechnologies.com
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  • 16.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 15:47
    Not a lot of technical details clarified at all.  Just salesy stuff.
    What exactly is their glorified "Sage Provisioning Portal", and what technical value does it provide?  Is it just Sage sinking it's claws into the customer's connection with Azure?

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 17.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 16:10
    Yes. And then a few months in they will drop the program....

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    Eric Lunceford
    First Mate Business Solutions
    Oklahoma City, OK
    877-880-8960
    https://www.firstmatellc.com/
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  • 18.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 17:27
    In a manner of speaking, no.  They did have a slide with a image holder for all the 'marketing' materials that will 'support' the partners efforts.

    However, if you want to post that question on the 90 Minds Community and cite an at mention to Phuong Nguyen, (Timothy Harfields) replacement, she'll likely answer it for us.  I encourage the members to tag on to that post any other specific questions.

    BTW @Rhonda McNamara if you want me to start that post, just let me know.  :)
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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 19.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 17:31
    Looks like Gary Feldman stated a thread on the 90 Minds Community that we can add to:

    https://community.90minds.com/communities/community-home/digestviewer/viewthread?GroupId=1&MessageKey=88272f30-06cf-46fc-8049-a91da80579cb&CommunityKey=bf25354e-5833-4162-a158-49e49e5a8f5b&tab=digestviewer&ReturnUrl=%2fbrowse%2fallrecentposts

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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 20.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 17:52
    Yeah, I don't see Sage discontinuing a program like this.  To them it is almost all "win" with very little cost.  Only marketing help and a bit of admin / red-tape... unless I am missing details to some sort of technical value-add by Sage (which the slides seem to push strongly back on to Partners).

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 21.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 16:09

    Way too much risk and too little benefit ( until Sage requires you to migrate to it ).

    Let others be the pioneers. If you sell this I strongly recommend you provide customers with an upfront FAQ about the pros/cons of the solution or you'll potentially become the unpaid complaint desk.

    I LOVE the concept of keeping customers current and upgrading every 12 months.
    The problem with this - as we know - Sage is late to release PU, the ISVs with KEY enhancements are late or don't support a PU.
    The time to have planned this was probably 5 years ago and it should have been a 5-year plan to get all Sage 100 able to upgrade within 12 months. 
    If an ISV is not able to meet that goal within the time period then Sage should not allow them in the program.

    Frankly, I don't know who the ultimate target customer is for this.

    Really small customers are gone.
    Medium-sized customers have an IT department with virtual machines and RDP

    What's problematic is Sage will start bombarding customers with marketing which may be misleading and then we'll be stuck spending time getting quotes and making demonstrations.

    This is really really scary.



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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 22.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 17:10
    The target for this is Partners, recruiting customers into locked in infrastructure, with the pain pushed back onto the partners for all the red tape / complaints.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 23.  RE: Post your comments on the Sage Partner Cloud Webinar

    Posted 12-02-2020 18:00
    Sage gets the Partners to sell hosting dangles the tier credit carrot, and it should work, right?

    The target is cash flow, first, last, and always.  C level execs got their shirts handed to them during a pandemic with a drop in Sage renewals, and one of them pointed a finger and said , 'this wouldn't happen if the product was hosted'.  This secures Sage renewals on a platform they'll 'control' and you, the partner, get to sell & manage for them.  Add on the unlimited support calls and SageU for free, and what customer is going to pay you for something that Sage gives away?  Just think, when a customer gets upset with your invoice/SLA price, Sage can flip that customer to another firm faster than you can say, focus.  Or, likely the next step, Sage might just keep the customer all to themselves and keep all the tier credit, commissions, and profit to themselves. 



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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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