I'm sure that it is WO to PM Conversion issue. Here is why:
(note: I'm not necessarily advocating this method, I just know it worked in one very special case).
At one client, prior to converting I went into DFDM and manually edited WO1 (Work Ticket header) and WON (Work Ticket History Header) and manually deleted all work orders that started with a letter. At this client there were only a handful of records to delete and they were all work orders created as dummy and the client did not want them converted anyway. I did not even mess with WO2 or WOO tables in their case. Their work ticket numbers and work ticket keys all matched and new work tickets also match now.
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Original Message:
Sent: 6/3/2025 11:44:00 AM
From: Susan Pawlowic
Subject: RE: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
So I completed and closed work ticket S1234567, updated all registers, confirmed it appears in the WT_HistoryHeader file, and created a new auto-assign WT which assigned number...95027. It's not occurring in company PMZ when a work ticket is manually assigned a higher number. It seems it's either something that occurs in a company that doesn't have the tight controls of a demo company, or it's a WO-to-PM conversion thing. Has anyone experienced this absent of the WO conversion process?
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-03-2025 11:33
From: Robert Osborn
Subject: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
Hi Susan
I can confirm also that it happens. (really annoying) My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think it looks at the last work ticket number in history to get the next number.
Original Message:
Sent: 6/3/2025 11:28:00 AM
From: Susan Pawlowic
Subject: RE: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
i just tried to duplicate this in my test system by entering work ticket number S1234567 then creating a new work ticket with auto-assign, and it assigned number 95026. I wonder if the issue occurs only when you're converting from WO? I have one coming up in a few weeks. I'll post the results then and if they follow the same pattern as described in this post, will contact Sage then so I have something to show them. I did have a client self-convert last year and they did not report this issue.
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-03-2025 11:05
From: Jane Scanlan
Subject: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
@Susan Pawlowic I haven't contacted Sage, so if that is something you are able to do it would be much appreciated. It doesn't make sense to have these keys be created so out of sync because of some conversion programming logic.
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Jane Scanlan
Partner
Next Level Manufacturing Consulting Group
Original Message:
Sent: 06-03-2025 08:17
From: Susan Pawlowic
Subject: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
Has this been reported to Sage yet? Sounds like if not a glitch, at least a hot enhancement item. If not, I'll make the call.
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Susan Pawlowic
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-03-2025 07:03
From: David Overholt
Subject: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
I agree Kevin, the problem is that instead of just starting the work ticket key at 000000000001 and incrementing during the conversion of work order to Production Management, they used the work ticket number as the key and then going forward after the conversion Sage is using the highest key in history and incrementing that to the next key. I had one client that had created some test work orders using ZZZ0001 and that created keys that start with ZZZ and then some strange set of spaces and numbers behind it so new work tickets created after the upgrade stare with ZZZ and more cryptic values.
You're correct that at this point it is what it is. But what it is, is not ideal to say the least.
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Original Message:
Sent: 6/2/2025 4:40:00 PM
From: Kevin Moyes
Subject: RE: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
I believe WorkTicketKey is for the back-end data links, and not intended for the user to ever see, with WorkTicketNo being the value users see.
Approach it like GL Account / AccountKey and that should work.
Yes, it is a pain when querying tables without the WorkTicketNo, having to link to the header... but it is what it is. (My guess is they needed something to handle potential WO# / WT# duplicates when they finally converted WO history, merging it with WT history from JT/PM...).
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Kevin Moyes
Technical Systems Analyst
Munjal White Consulting Co.
Toronto ON
Original Message:
Sent: 06-02-2025 11:17
From: Jeff Schwenk
Subject: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
This also causes issues when doing an Excel Query. Do I use the WT key or WT number? To join tables, it is the Key.
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-29-2025 16:24
From: Robert Osborn
Subject: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
I have run into that as well. Wish they had the same setup as all the other modules where there is a "Next Work Ticket Number" in the options rather than the last one from history which can for sure give you goofy keys...
Original Message:
Sent: 5/29/2025 3:31:00 PM
From: Jane Scanlan
Subject: RE: PM_WorkTicketHeader WT Key is screwed up
Thank you @David Overholt. I will look into WT History to see if I can find the orders with these type of goofy keys. And I agree with you, as I've been hating on this work ticket key which I don't understand why it is needed either.
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Partner
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