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Payroll checks are printing double-sided

  • 1.  Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-18-2020 19:40
    First payroll check run after Go Live on v2019/PR2.20.2.  During testing, payroll checks printed fine.  Today is the first live check run in the new version. She has tried printing on 3 different printers and it is printing one check on one side of the form and the next check on the back side of the form.  Doesn't happen using the STANDARD form template.  IT says 2-sided printing is not enabled on printers.  Any thoughts on where to look in the form template?  Printer Options is set to "No Printer".  I don't know what other settings there are that could be at play.  Thoughts?  Poor Payroll person is printing over 100 checks one at a time.

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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 2.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-18-2020 19:45
    Not sure this applies to PR checks, but generally speaking there can be things like tray selection stored in a Sage table... settings accessed from the printing screen.


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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 3.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-18-2020 19:49
    Both IT and I have looked through printer settings and haven't identified anything there.  One of the printers doesn't have double-sided at all.  On that computer/printer, it prints every other check.

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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 4.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-18-2020 19:52
    The problem seems related to how Sage stores printer settings, not related to the printer selected (or Windows print object).  Query SY_ReportSetting to see what I mean.


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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 5.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-18-2020 19:59

    Oh, I see.  On the STANDARD form that field is set to "0". For the customized form, it's set to "2".  I wonder where it gets that value.

    Not that I know what either value means, but I'll back up the file and set it to "0".

    Thanks Kevin!



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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 6.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-18-2020 20:17
    Edited by Jeff Schwenk 08-18-2020 20:20
    Could be a excellent opportunity to have a heart to heart on the benefits of PR ACH......

    Were they on the new BF prior to this version of Sage?  Is the line count on the printer panel set correctly?  Is there a default printer in the Crystal form?

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 7.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-19-2020 17:43
    @Barbara Goldstein - Any resolution?  Very interested in it. ​​

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 8.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-19-2020 18:13
    They were on v4.5 before the upgrade.  I made changes in SY_ReportSetting to make them the same as the standard form code, but can't test before tomorrow.  I'll report back success.
    STANDARD form code setting
    Customized form code settings


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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 9.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-19-2020 18:43
    Oh, an upgrade from v4.5.  Interesting.  What I have done in the past is clean up the clutter via DFDM in ..\SY_ReportSetting.M4T, ..\SY_ReportOption.M4T and \SY_LastFormUsed.M4T that has built up over the years.  Users come and go, workstations come and go and form get created that no longer have purpose.  I usually delete that I know are no longer used but occasionally I clean up everything but depending on the level of my analness that day, I have deleted everything but the standard form records.  Does it help?  Dunno but my OCD was tamed for the day.

    If anyone is aware of a more efficient method of resetting to "factory settings", please post.

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 10.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-21-2020 18:56
    Still printing double-sided, after replicating settings from the STANDARD form.  May have to drop a dime on Sage.

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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 11.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-21-2020 18:59
    Can you try customizing the form under a new form code to see where it ends up breaking?

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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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  • 12.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-21-2020 20:18
    Thanks Amber, just did.  Will report back results.

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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 13.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 08-31-2020 18:57

    Resolved.

    So many things tried.  I won't burden you with all the details, but the most recent actions were:

    Deleted all report settings for PR Check printing, cleaned out SY_ReportSetting, SY_ReportOption, SY_Lastformused; IT reinstalled printer and swore up and down duplexing was turned off.  Long Long story short, created brand new report setting, replaced the customized .rpt.  When testing, it printed duplex until we opened Printer Setup from the Check Printing window and disabled Duplex printing (and yes, this was after I had already changed SY_ReportSetting, per @Kevin Moyes' suggestion days ago).



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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 14.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 09-01-2020 08:18
    If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, try, and try.........  Glad it worked out for you

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 15.  RE: Payroll checks are printing double-sided

    Posted 09-30-2020 14:26
    Old post.  Moved to Sage 100 Discussion.

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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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