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  • 1.  Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-26-2019 08:53
    Is anyone else seeing this? 

    The customer is on Payroll at version 2.19.
    I update the tax tables online via the app.

    When I go to Library Master - Install Modules Listing - I still see the legacy payroll tax table update which was latest installed ( in this case dated 12/27/2018).

    If this a global issue or something odd on my customer's system? 

    If this is being seen by everyone - it seems that once payroll has upgraded to 2.x that Sage should remove the entry for the old payroll TTU. Otherwise, the user runs this report and wonders why their TTU isn't updating. 

    And while I'm at it - where exactly can a user view the current release level of their Payroll 2.x TTU? I thought maybe *INFO but on Sage 100 2019 that only shows the payroll version.

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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 2.  RE: Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-26-2019 09:04
    There is no TTU needed anymore for 2.2X - you can go into the Utilities and run the Payroll Tax Update to make sure they've updated, but most people get sick of the little reminder pretty quickly and just run it each time it pops up.

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Beth Bowers
    269-445-1625
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  • 3.  RE: Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-26-2019 09:17
    >>There is no TTU needed anymore for 2.2X - you can go into the Utilities and run the Payroll Tax Update to make sure they've updated

    Color me confused - then why is there a utility to run a payroll tax update? 

    While the tax calculation is done remotely - there certainly is some type of update required or there wouldn't be an option to check for a Payroll Tax Update. 

    It appears that Sage tracks ( displays in the Installed Apps Listing )  this about as close as they track the IRDs.


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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 4.  RE: Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-26-2019 09:53
    My point is that there is no need to install a TTU from Sage's web site.  You're right that there isn't a list of when it was last run, but in the time it takes to look you could also just click on the option in PR and have it tell you there aren't any to update.  I see these as just being something you train clients to do (always say yes when the system tells you there is a tax update, make sure you run the Status Check after and how to clear issues there), but not really having to track.

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Beth Bowers
    269-445-1625
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  • 5.  RE: Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-26-2019 10:03
    @Wayne Schulz The Payroll Tax Update utility updates the mapping for the tax tables in the cloud. ​

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    Michelle Taylor
    ERP Consulting Manager, CS3 Technology
    918-388-9772
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  • 6.  RE: Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-26-2019 10:30
    Part 2 of my question notes that in one customer situation the old tax table update is still listed despite the customer long since upgrading to Sage 100 2019 and Payroll 2.x. Seems that Sage should pull this out of the dumpster fire known as Installed Modules Listing.

    Business Reason: 

    The customer asks you to "update tables"
    You do so by logging into their system and running the utility
    The customer subsequently looks at Installed Modules Listing and only sees tax tables related ( dated )  to legacy payroll 

    Suggestion: 

    Installed Modules Listing should accurately represent whatever level of tax table status has been run so the customer can quickly look and see the total status of all module versions. This listing should also be repaired so it doesn't show multiple entries for SQL customers.

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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 7.  RE: Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-27-2019 08:09
    Just had this exact question at 8 am from one of my 3 overnight payroll upgrades.

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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 8.  RE: Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-30-2019 22:09
    I agree with @Wayne Schulz - I've noticed the Tax tables from prior versions appearing on the installed module listing report.  Seems to be slopping programming that has been overlooked.  Luckily, none of my clients have asked about it, but the day will come




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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 9.  RE: Payroll 2.19 User - Installed Apps Shows TTU from 2018

    Posted 12-30-2019 22:13
    I made a copy of SY_Module.m4t and then removed the record.  Doesn't seem to have had any impact to Sage but is gone from the IML​

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    Nancy Hanson
    Blytheco LLC
    Eagan MN
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