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  • 1.  Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 13:13
    Anyone listening to the partner call?

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 2.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 13:15
    Yes, but not much to listen to.

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    Therese Logeais, Technology Integrators
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  • 3.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 13:17
    Dianna seems to have forgotten to mention the number of Sage 100 migrations to Intacct?  Did I miss it?

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 4.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 13:38
    So much for transparency.....


    Her response- I didn't provide the actuals. As a public company we are restricted in the level of granularity we can publish (i.e. by product line, by region, etc.)

    Things must be bad...

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 5.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 13:41
    Is anyone posting questions for the "TEAM"?  I only see two questions, both mine.  So either everyone is quiet or they are not being transparent.  There is that word again..

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 6.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 13:53
    Progress on the Smartsheets.........  OMG!

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 7.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:13
    Wow, the crickets are overwhelming...

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 8.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 13:15
    Could only access by phone, not online,  Intaact award first.

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    Lee Graham
    Friendly Systems, Inc.
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  • 9.  RE: Partner call
    Best Answer

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:15
    Today I Learned ( TIL ) : 

    1. FY22: Sage has a goal to migrate 355 BMS to Intacct ( presumably this means 100 and 300 ) and sell 1,939 SPC
    2. FY22: Sage has a goal to sell 215 BMS units ( presumably 100 and 300 ) and 783 Intacct
    3. 1/3 to 1/2 the partners moving up in tier appear to be CPA firms
    4. Sage Intacct partner of the year ( apparently this was announced back in November 21 ) Baker Tilly
    5. Sage Intelligence "two step" continues - no longer available for Sage 50, Sage 300 web screens "we still have some technical risk that we continue to mitigate.", "We have NOT announced a change in status of desktop Sage Intelligence for Sage 100, 300 or 500"
    6. Work Order Is Dead - Long Live Work Order ( version 2022 ) ... provided you can beg for unlocking keys which will be company specific
    7. Sage Partner Cloud - we'll keep showing these slides until customers buy in greater numbers
    8. Sage Partner Cloud - can't figure out why partners don't want to use email marketing campaigns for SPC ( when some fo the campaigns are branded with a big competitor logo )
    9. ISV Webcast Series - same old same old
    10. Sales Admin Team Goals - get back to partners within 2 days
    11. Sales Admin Team - talk about use of Smartsheet 3.0
    12. Sales Admin Team - Org Chart - don't bother saving this one , it'll probably be different in 90 days


    That's all I picked up from the meeting

    Did not hear Sage 500 mentioned except in passing as needed to discuss other products ( like Sage Intelligence ).



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    http://www.s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    860-516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 10.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:17
    @Wayne Schulz - Great recap!!​

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 11.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:20
    13. Sage experiencing more employee churn than expected - can't figure out why - blames it on "great resignation"

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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    http://www.s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    860-516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 12.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:26
    Agree with @Jeff Schwenk. Thank you for your entertaining summary, @Wayne Schulz! You saved an hour of my life. Priceless!

    Karen​​​​

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    Karen O'Lane
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
    Fresno CA
    803.252.6154 x242
    559.577.4142
    90 Minds Treasurer
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  • 13.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:41
    Perhaps Sage was the "canary in the coal mind" regarding the great migration.  Too bad no one paid attention 10 years ago.

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 14.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:42
    Two meanings to resignation, both may apply here

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Tennessee Software Solutions
    269-445-1625
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  • 15.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:52
    What is a BMS Unit?

    From @Wayne Schulz notes: "FY22: Sage has a goal to migrate 355 BMS to Intacct ( presumably this means 100 and 300 ) and sell 1,939 SPC".

    How can they have a "goal" to migrate Sage 100 & Sage 300 customers to Intacct?  I haven't been consulted on the appropriateness of Intacct for any of my customers.  How can they set a goal when they don;t know how many prospects they have?

    I saw a graph a few weeks ago that displayed the percentage of each ERP system that migrated to Intacct.  I believe QuickBooks had the largest percentage by far and Sage 100 / 300 was a small sliver of systems migrating.  This is interesting.  First, there are WAY more QuickBooks users than Sage 100 / 300 users so that doesn't surprise me too much.  Second, it's a HUGE jump in functionality and price to change from QB to Intacct.  Third, maybe end users like Sage 100 / 300 and are resistant to converting.  Why pressure them to change if they are paying a subscription license?   Could the push from Sage 100/300 to Intacct be to shift the revenue away from the business partner to the publisher?  For example, the end user pays more for the Intacct subscription than for the Sage 100/300 subscription but they also get hosting and upgrades included.     


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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 16.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:54
    Business Management Software
    I think it’s 100,300,500 but I couldn’t swear that it doesn’t include more/less products.

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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    http://www.s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    860-516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 17.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-17-2022 14:56
    Thanks.  It's difficult to keep up with all of the acronyms.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 18.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-18-2022 12:47
    I have a slightly different take on this presentation, although I do think Wayne captured it well.

    1. Sage has always clouded the specific sales numbers. I thought this was more transparent because they actually shared some sales targets in terms roughly useful to us.

    2. They need Sage 100 customers to stick around more than a few years."215 BMA NCA units" is rare to see. That they then want to take 355 of  BMS customers into Intacct is quite open. Sage 100 is >75% of their BMS definition, so ~250 targeted? Out of 14k installed base. ALSO they want ~40% of Intacct sales to come from this; like Doug, I saw numbers indicating that current upgrade rates are nowhere near this.

    3. Intacct seems to do unusually well for CPA firms. I have a hard time seeing this concentration translating into distrib/mfg migrations. there is a reason we have yet to see many success stories of 100>>Intacct migrations for these types. 

    4. In terms of transparency, they shared that progress towards 3 of their execution priorities are not doing as well as they want. While not truly "bad news" this is a bit unusual. 

    5. Churn rate is low enough to be a "green" area. This surprises me a little.

    6. ISV add-ons are meeting expectations. This seems to be where a lot of their touted 10% recurring rev growth comes from. From the nature of webinars so far, I think most of this is tied to enhancing Intacct-X3.

    7. Sales Admin. In the aughts, an experienced Sage sales mgr volunteered to clean this up. He stayed a half-dozen years and made remarkable progress. Since then these managers leave on an 18-mo cycle or less, often without much impact The problem is likely due to both mgrs with inadequate sales experience (to understand their "customer" (partners) and to Sage enterprise-wide structural problems. Past is prologue: this will likely never actually be good. Still, it is better than when Sage reps were calling our customers and making things worse. The temporary didn't say anything useful because he's temporary (and he couldn't even construct a slide that clearly showed the difference between several branches with identical titles for people).

    8. Employee retention. I don't recall this item ever being on a Sage slide. Frankly, I think this is pretty brave. Compared to the Kelly era, morale is much better. I do wish they'd shared a bit more about what they plan to address this. I still think Sage NA is basically a ''training ground" for professionals, and not a place where a degreed employee will find the passion there was at SOTA.

    9. The one part I thought they should have spent a bit of time on was, "How we plan to attract the 215 BMS NCA customers." I heard nothing about prospect profiles, and nothing about product marketing for them. Because they consistently skip over this, and over significant descriptions for current S100 customers they focus on for migration, I think Nancy T continues to be more than a little tone-deaf about what this audience wants to know.



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    Jerry Norman
    At-Large BOD Member, 90 Minds
    Smartbridge Partners
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 19.  RE: Partner call

    Posted 02-24-2022 10:18
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    Slide deck from all-hands

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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    http://www.s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    860-516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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