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  • 1.  Opinion on Sage 100 on Workgroup vs. Domain

    Posted 04-12-2019 16:50
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    Hi all - I am trying to help a client with optimizing their environment for Sage 100 and had some questions regarding their current network structure. Any opinions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

     

    Client uses Sage 100 Advanced, Starship and TrueCommerce between two buildings, separated by about 300 ft. The "remote" building uses an RDP connection to a terminal server and launches all three products inside the RDP session, and everything is extremely slow, especially the connections/integrations between Sage 100 and the third-party products. Application speed is normal when we remote to the application server.

     

    Users no longer want to use RDP and instead want to launch everything locally so that they can quit flipping between screens, use scales, etc., so client has put in an SD-WAN but their ping speed is still about 30 ms when they were expecting 5-10 ms. They are now looking at a "metro ethernet" connection as another point-to-point connection option.

     

    We've discussed many options, including using Windows RemoteApps (which they do not know how to implement but if I can assure that all products will function correctly and quickly, they will consider). One thing I remarked on was that they are on a workgroup rather than a domain. I would like to push them to move to a domain but are there any real selling points for enhanced performance/speed as well remote connectivity, or are the benefits more centered around more global management of environmental settings like security, group policies, etc? Any other thoughts on any of the above? Thanks in advance!



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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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  • 2.  RE: Opinion on Sage 100 on Workgroup vs. Domain

    Posted 04-12-2019 17:38
    using Windows RemoteApps (which they do not know how to implement 

    They should retain a qualified IT department or this will only be the beginning...


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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 3.  RE: Opinion on Sage 100 on Workgroup vs. Domain

    Posted 04-12-2019 18:16
    Definitely working them up to that!​

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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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  • 4.  RE: Opinion on Sage 100 on Workgroup vs. Domain

    Posted 04-12-2019 18:23
    No business Windows environment with more than a handful of users should be running as a work-group.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 5.  RE: Opinion on Sage 100 on Workgroup vs. Domain

    Posted 04-12-2019 22:19
    Remote Apps are not for the faint of heart. I would run from this screaming if they did not have a qualified IT Consultant to implement and maintain.

    Here's a thought. I am guessing you are estimating 300 feet between buildings. Do they own the property between them? Could they run an aerial or underground cable to connect them? 100 meters or 328 ft is the technical maximum distance for twisted pair ethernet. You could install 2 switches at the points that make the shortest distance between the buildings and connect both these "edge" switches to the internal LAN's of each building. Or if the distance is too great, run fiber between the buildings, it's not as costly as it used to be.


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    Greg Stiles
    S & W Microsystems
    Torrance CA
    310.787.1010
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  • 6.  RE: Opinion on Sage 100 on Workgroup vs. Domain

    Posted 04-13-2019 11:39
    The recommendations here about consulting a solid IT/CTO resource are certainly on target.

    I think you should start, though, by recommending the put the Sage server into the cloud. I'd start by discussing this with IB-N, <g class="gr_ gr_257 gr-alert gr_spell gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim ContextualSpelling ins-del multiReplace" id="257" data-gr-id="257">GoToMyERP</g> or Summit Hosting -- all solid 90 Minders. We happen to have several customers happily avoiding challenges similar to yours with a solution from Applianz.

    I know the customer thinks that RDP is a non-starter, but they are wrong -- they have to get their network access and hardware configuration right. With cloud hosting solutions, the hardware element is straightforward, and the vendor applies that level of expertise as part of the setup and subscription. It will be easy for the vendor to prove to the customer that application access with this is more than acceptable because cloud demos can be arranged in minutes.

    The 4 vendors I mentioned are all experienced with Sage 100 on their farms. It removes a lot of that risk. The customer doesn't have to move all of their servers to the cloud, just the Sage-related ones. 

    Some of the vendors will let you carry the paper on the deal, meaning that you can propose this a Sage-focussed solution, you charge what want, and you bundle the front-line support into it. Once you get this going, support requirements are really, really low. 

    Oh, and ANY custom app development should always be a last resort. You aren't there yet.

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    Jerry Norman
    Smartbridge Partners
    Austin TX
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 7.  RE: Opinion on Sage 100 on Workgroup vs. Domain

    Posted 04-14-2019 10:40
    Thanks to everyone for taking time to respond.  I needed help to back up my position and I will providing a summary of the responses to the client. Have a great week!

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    Amber Prayfrock, Blytheco
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