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One of our customers would like to change the UOM

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk08-28-2013 07:23

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk08-28-2013 07:28

John Shaver

John Shaver08-28-2013 07:29

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk08-28-2013 07:54

  • 1.  One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 07:16
    One of our customers would like to change the UOM for the majority of their inventory items. The items to be included currently have standard UOMs of dozens and half-dozens. The objective is to change all of those items to use a standard UOM of each. Both the UOM itself and the quantities would need to be changed in the open order tables, open invoice tables, and all of the historical tables that contain UOM. Changing the UOM in the open tables is pretty straightforward. I'm wondering if there is a feasible way to make the change in the historical tables and if anyone in the group would be interesting in taking on that part of the project.


  • 2.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 07:19
    This would be for Sage 100 Advanced version 4.45.


  • 3.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 07:23
    How much history is there?


  • 4.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 07:27
    Almost 4 years. We purged a chunk of history when they moved from 3.74 to 4.45.


  • 5.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 07:28
    Any idea on the # of records?


  • 6.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 07:29
    In which table?


  • 7.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 07:54
    AR Invoice History Detail.


  • 8.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 08:22
    If you change the history then not only is it there a change to UOM but also the quantities too, the extensions as well. Is it really necessary to change history?


  • 9.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 10:02
    I agree with Moira. The history would be in old UOM, but that was the measure at the time!


  • 10.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 10:59
    @MoiraGoggin, you're exactly right about the calculations. They use the history for reporting purposes. @GaryFeldman, I thought about that too. Could they just use formulas in their reports to compensate for the difference in UOM? @JeffSchwenk, confirming the number of records in the history table.


  • 11.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 12:32
    Approximately 3.2 million records in AR Invoice History Detail.


  • 12.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 12:41
    So the issue is that the history may show 1 when the UOM conversion would mean 6 or 12 each if you just pull a quantity field due to UOM. Then the question would be what reports are they using for what purposes? How far back do these reports look? Could Sage Inventory Advisor be a different option? The reporting in there is pretty good and you could do the conversion in the upload and then set scripts to only pull new.


  • 13.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 12:48
    Changing the formulas would be my suggestion. In fact, there is a UOM conversion factor in the table already so not that difficult to convert to EACH's. Unless, of course there was no conversion factor. Still, not too difficult to do the conversion in a formula.


  • 14.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 14:02
    @JohnShaver I second @ThereseLogeais idea - also would add that you could use the invoice date (if date prior to XX/XX/XXX) add an asterisk or other indicator to let the user know that this is the historical UOM.


  • 15.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 14:17
    Don't you guys realize this is not about meeting customer requirements, but selling more sage products, especially ones like SIA which give little or no compensation and extend the roots of the sage tree in the customer pockets? Sorry, @PeterWolf invaded my body for a moment.


  • 16.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 14:31
    ?_? SLA has zero to do with Sage. Can't tell if you are joking or not ... I have repeatedly told them that they need to change the name though because it is confusing.


  • 17.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 14:50
    Ignore my comment ... I'm suffering from little to no sleep because of a bug I can't seem to shake.


  • 18.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 16:48
    SAGE INVENTORY ADVISOR NOT SAGE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY....


  • 19.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-28-2013 16:50
    John, I think the tribe has spoken. I too vote for @ThereseLogeais idea of formula driven translations. And I will take it one step further and suggest an Access PTQ intermediary database to speed reporting along......


  • 20.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-29-2013 11:40
    I'll recommend that they go down the formula path. I don't think they really want to make the changes to the history tables either. They jokingly asked if I would do it for a million dollars...my answer was ""no""! Jeff, since they are running Sage 100 SQL, report speed shouldn't be an issue (unless I'm missing something). Thanks everyone!


  • 21.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-29-2013 12:30
    @JohnShaver Me thinks Jeff suggested PTQ because you stated this was 100 Advanced (but it's actually Premium).


  • 22.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-29-2013 12:32
    Let's blame it on Sage and their dipshit rebranding!


  • 23.  RE: One of our customers would like to change the UOM

    Posted 08-30-2013 09:38
    A ""middle-ground"" approach could be to update the UnitOfMeasureConvFactor in AR_InvoiceHistoryDetail. It would make reporting a bit easier and it's not too invasive.