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ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

  • 1.  ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 10:40
    Just upgraded a client from 2018 PU2 to 2018 PU6.  Client is being hosted by us, and when we run side by side comparisons on their Sage ODBC connections, PU2 connects immediately, while PU6 takes 3 minutes to connect.  Same server, same drive, same connector - just a different PU update.  Any ideas?  Help @Alnoor Cassim!

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    Sue Bennett
    Jack of All Trades, Master of 1
    Bennett/Porter & Associates, Inc.
    Tigard OR
    503.620.3484
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  • 2.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 10:44
    Any chance "Sage PEP" is turned on in the PU6 update but off in the PU2 update?

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    David Overholt
    DWD Technology Group
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  • 3.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 10:50

    I'll check!

     

    Sue Bennett | President

    P. 503 620 3484 | F. 503 620 2765

    12559 SW 69th Ave | Tigard, OR  97223

    Sue@benpor.com www.benpor.com

    Bennett/Porter Blog facebook twitter

     

     



    ------Original Message------

    Any chance "Sage PEP" is turned on in the PU6 update but off in the PU2 update?

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    David Overholt
    DWD Technology Group
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  • 4.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 10:55
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    one quick way to tell is to look for the email address info when you log into Sage 100 - if you see the job title/email address info. I think that is in indicator that PEP is turned on. 


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    David Overholt
    DWD Technology Group
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  • 5.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 11:01
    There has been issue in the past whether you use the name of the server vs the IP address.  Is it Standard or Advanced?

    Get Outlook for iOSo
     


    ------Original Message------

    one quick way to tell is to look for the email address info when you log into Sage 100 - if you see the job title/email address info. I think that is in indicator that PEP is turned on. 


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    David Overholt
    DWD Technology Group
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  • 6.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 11:21

    PEP is set to "N" in both the PU2 and the PU6.

     

    And @Jim Woodhead, it is Standard...but they're both on the same server with the same address...

     

    Sue Bennett | President

    P. 503 620 3484 | F. 503 620 2765

    12559 SW 69th Ave | Tigard, OR  97223

    Sue@benpor.com www.benpor.com

    Bennett/Porter Blog facebook twitter

     

     



    ------Original Message------

    one quick way to tell is to look for the email address info when you log into Sage 100 - if you see the job title/email address info. I think that is in indicator that PEP is turned on. 


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    David Overholt
    DWD Technology Group
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  • 7.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 14:07
    Sue when you say ODBC connections where PU2 connects immediately but PU6 takes 3 minutes, are you referring to slowness for a specific Crystal report, Excel query, SQL Linked Server query, or Access query OR is it across the board slower ODBC? Also is there always a certain table involved like AR_InvoiceHistoryHeader ? I know with SQL and Access, I have to add ORDER BY InvoiceNo, HeaderSeqNo (the key fields) to the SELECT stmt to get the expected speed. Also, I had converted from 2018 PU1 to PU5 myself a few weeks ago and noticed several tables underwent conversion b/c of dictionary changes meaning if it's Crystal Reports you're talking about, you may need to Verify Database. Hope that helps.

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    Alnoor Cassim

    Free Agent Developer and Consultant
    CallForHelp.biz
    Email: alnoor@callforhelp.biz
    Orange County, CA
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  • 8.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 14:21
    @Alnoor Cassim - we're just testing the ODBC Connection using the Start Menu/ODBC/SOTAMAS/Configure and testing it there.  That's where using PU2 is instantaneous, but when we do the test on PU6, we get a "not responding" message and that's what is taking 4 to 5 minutes to load the files.  

    Where the client is being stalled is in Shipping Data Entry​.  The first time they go into Shipping Data Entry using PU6, they have to wait and endure the "not responding" message, which eventually clears, and from thereon they can use Shipping Data Entry with no problems.  As long as they don't log out.  If they log out and log back in, they have to wait the 4 to 5 minutes again.

    We're sure it is all of the "new" things Sage has added in PU5 and PU6 with the new "consolidation of Sales Orders".  We just don't know how to fix it!

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    Sue Bennett
    Jack of All Trades, Master of 1
    Bennett/Porter & Associates, Inc.
    Tigard OR
    503.620.3484
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  • 9.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 14:43
    I see. Although it's the same "Not Responding" message, Shipping Data Entry doesn't do an ODBC connection (not by default). Maybe the PU6 system is overall slower if not just slower in Shipping due to the SO consolidation feature. My own approaching to troubleshooting this could be something like:

    * Make a copy of \mas90 for the PU6 system.
    * Start the copy version so as not to disturb the Live users
    * Duplicate the slowness in copy version then exit out.
    * Rename \mas90\Links folder and try to duplicate slowness again. If speed OK, then then go down the road of mods.
    * Run a SYZCON utility that forces an update of the physical tables from the dictionary, knowing the dictionary changed with PU4+ b/c of the Shipping / SO consolidation feature. Then test slowness again. 
    * Do a Program Trace on the start up of Shipping Data Entry to see where it bogs down

    Also look for obvious differences. E.g. if PU2 shortcut used a mapped drive but PU6 uses UNC, try using mapped drive.

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    Alnoor Cassim

    Free Agent Developer and Consultant
    CallForHelp.biz
    Email: alnoor@callforhelp.biz
    Orange County, CA
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  • 10.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 15:08
    AV exclusions in place for one location, but not the other?  Any CPU processes spike (on workstation or server) when connecting?

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 11.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 16:24

    No spokes whatsoever – and they're both on the same drive with the same AV exclusions...

     

    Sue Bennett | President

    P. 503 620 3484 | F. 503 620 2765

    12559 SW 69th Ave | Tigard, OR  97223

    Sue@benpor.com www.benpor.com

    Bennett/Porter Blog facebook twitter

     

     



    ------Original Message------

    AV exclusions in place for one location, but not the other?  Any CPU processes spike (on workstation or server) when connecting?

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 12.  RE: ODBC Connection and Sage 2018 PU6

    Posted 04-24-2019 16:31
    And no spikes either...(spokes...where did that come from?!!)

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    Sue Bennett
    Jack of All Trades, Master of 1
    Bennett/Porter & Associates, Inc.
    Tigard OR
    503.620.3484
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