General Consultant Discussion

Obviously from a company with a bias to this type of marketing but still some interesting stats

When a US trident sub (missle boat) puts out to sea, it is the 3rd most powerful nuclear country in the world. The problem is that the sub ISN""T A COUNTRY and niether is Facebook. Such comparisons are pretty wild and like most commercials you have to take the content with a gain of salt.

And over 50% of Mississippi Republicans think Obama is Muslim

Curious, where you got that stat from? My understanding is, and I'm no expert, that if you are born to a Muslim father, you are Muslim, which he acknowledges he was (born to a Muslim father). There are many of our Muslim 'friends' around the world who think he should be 'dealt with' under Sharia law and if he lived in some of their countries, he would, for 'abandoning' the religion

Yea but with the turn of 2 keys and the press of a button, that Trident Sub can become the only country on earth LOL From: do-not-reply@socialcast.com [mailto:do-not-reply@socialcast.com] On Behalf Of Myron Stevenson Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:21 AM To: Mark Chinsky Subject: Re: [90 Minds Consulting Group] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzsQkMFgHE&feature=player_embedded

@MarkChinsky The stat came from a survey I saw on yahoo that was released within the past couple of days. By your reasoning no one is actually any religion because if you trace it back far enough we all have ancestors who pre-date any of the current major religions.

Would it matter if you think he's doing a good job? Interesting video. Facebook isn't a country, but it makes for an interesting size comparison. The power of a platform of that size could be amazing. Too bad it's in the hands of Facebook.

I could care less if he's Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Mormon or whatever. Personally I'm not religious at all although I'm Jewish by birth. I do care if he's liberal and believes the government should pick winners and losers (Solyndra), and that the government should regulate our lives and redistribute the money from those who work hard and succeed to give it to those who don't. I do care if he's beholden to various voting blocks like the environmentalist crowd who wants to prevent US based drilling, even pumping oil into the US because they wan't nothing to do with fossil fuels (won't even allow Natural Gas) even though they have no viable affordable alternatives. I do care he feels that women are entitled to government paid for contraception. (Hey, where's my check for the condoms I buy?? Whats the difference). Sorry, if you can't afford $30/month for the Pill maybe you should be doing something other than having sexon the tax payer dime. I do care that he's run up more debt in 3.5 years than every president combined that has lived before him. And in February more debt than in any year before 1990 From: do-not-reply@socialcast.com [mailto:do-not-reply@socialcast.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wood Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:34 AM To: Mark Chinsky Subject: Re: [90 Minds Consulting Group] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzsQkMFgHE&feature=player_embedded

I think that's my point. People get hung up on whether he's Muslim or Christian, black or white, when what really matters is whether he's doing a good job or not..

The point is, that whether they think he's muslim or not is irrelevent. They aren't voting for him because he's a liberal democrat, not because he is or isn't a muslim as they are Republicans. The likely liberal source that took the survey and asked the question should really have their intentions examined more so than the response to the question. They knew what type of trouble and implication they were trying to achieve by asking that question

@MarkChinsky - Did you also oppose Bush running up deficits even in good economic times? Starting up two wars while cutting taxes? (never been done in history, even when the ""divine right of kings"" was in force.) Do you also oppose subsidizing the oil companies, who have collected far more in those subsidies than all the green energy companies combined? As for health care, we should join the rest of the civilized world and have a single payer system. Since the price of health care has become a ""buying group"" issue, and individuals and small businesses therefore get the worst of it, having a single payer system gives us the biggest buying group - all of us. And please don't tell me you oppose this because you don't want to subsidize others' healthcare, because you already are - those without insurance end up in ERs for non-emergency care, which is the most expensive and least effective way to provide care, and everyone who has insurance pays for that already. So we might as well be pitching in to do it right. And that health care should not have coverage dictated by the various sharias being marketed - offering coverage for something does not mean that someone who doesn't believe in it has to take it, but restricting coverage for something because some people don't believe in it is bullshit. I am equally disgusted with both parties, as they are all about getting elected and not about actually doing the job they get elected to do, and at this point I will be voting a straight ""none of the above"" in November. Obama is too eager to compromise with psychopaths, Holder's trampling of the Constitution makes Cheney look liberal, and on the Republican side there is nothing but psychopaths (and a robot). The only one who hasn't changed his tune is Ron Paul, and he has moved from being the fringe to being the voice of reason in this bunch.

My original point in bringing up the survey in connection with the Facebook story was to point how bad ideas can become ubiquitous.

@PhilMcIntosh Ok, so why not have single payor food? We need that to live too. How about single payor housing. Single payor cars? And most of the 'civilized world' that has single payor has more debt problems than we do (PIGS anybody?) and they don't also have to fund the defense of the 'civilized world' who is free and civilized primarily because of the military those on the left love to hate

Show me something the government pays for that doesn't end up costing 2x more than private versions. Hell the CBO just announced 2 years after giving us the original estimates that Obamacare will cost TWICE as much as expected and it hasn't even really started yet. Sounds like a typical ERP project to me. Hey, there's an idea, Single Payor ERP while we are at it. We all pay now in the form of bad customer service with companies that have no/bad ERP systems.

http://news.yahoo.com/cbo-obamacare-price-tag-shifts-940-billion-1-163500655.html

We lived without single payor for the something like 230 years as a nation. Why is it suddenly a good idea now?

We lived without computers for hundreds of years as well... There is already a bureaucracy in charge of health care, and its motivation is to provide as little care as possible for as much money as possible..why is that a good idea?

So you think Medicare for all (which is single payor, but for just old folks) is a better idea? What you describe sounds like Sage where they want to provide as little software improvement as possible for as much money now. We'll see how well that works out in the world of competition. The problem is healthcare and insurance is already over-regulated and regulated state by state. If had more than 2 choices of health insurance companies, you'd see how quick rates would come down. I just got a mailing from my electric company reminding me rates have come down 40% in 2 years...Convenient that it's time for their folks to pick an electric provider now that they have opened it up to competition in NJ. Think that would have happened if it stayed a monopoly? (Which is what government run is). The government doesn't need to be a 'for profit' to keep raising prices. It's internal corruption, bloat, political correctness, unions and favoritism more than outweighs the typical 20% EBITDA of a private company.

I just renewed my health care coverage March 1. This is the first time in 12 years of individual health care that my policy increase was only single digits. And health insurance companies don't actually provide any health care, so it is the actual health care providers we need to force to compete. So the Sage analogy would be closer to the money being wasted on rebranding.

And here's another example of why nothing gets accomplished...no compromise discussions here either.