Sage 100

Goodmorning!  Skol Vikings!!
In both Payroll 2.19.4 and 2.20 with all 3 fixes, customer is trying to enter new State Unemployment Rates and in some states (KS, MI) they have an add'l column for No Wage Cap or Alternate Wage Cap.  When we enter the line, it doesn't let us accept it, indicating 'Alternate Wage Cap is Required'.  Doesn't matter if I check the boxes or not.  I have to cancel to get out.
How do I get around this?  Where is the Alternate Wage Cap field to enter the amount for that state?
Is this a bug?

Thanks

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Nancy Hanson
Blytheco LLC
Eagan MN
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I checked the check box for Alternate Wage Cap in my Michigan setup and it took it.  You don't have to enter the cap anywhere - for Michigan, for example, the cap is either 9000 or 9500 (if you are a delinquent employer) so I am ASSUMING that Sage knows the two numbers and applies them based on the check box being checked, or not.

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Beth Bowers
Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
Beth Bowers
269-445-1625
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Thanks Beth
Did you try it on an existing line?  Can you do me a favor and try to add a new line and see if it still takes it? 
Thanks​

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Nancy Hanson
Blytheco LLC
Eagan MN
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2020 11:17
From: Beth Bowers
Subject: No Wage Cap/Alternate Wage Cap

I checked the check box for Alternate Wage Cap in my Michigan setup and it took it.  You don't have to enter the cap anywhere - for Michigan, for example, the cap is either 9000 or 9500 (if you are a delinquent employer) so I am ASSUMING that Sage knows the two numbers and applies them based on the check box being checked, or not.

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Beth Bowers
Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
Beth Bowers
269-445-1625
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I added a new line and it was still a happy camper and let me Accept it.

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Beth Bowers
Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
Beth Bowers
269-445-1625
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2020 11:22
From: Nancy Hanson
Subject: No Wage Cap/Alternate Wage Cap

Thanks Beth
Did you try it on an existing line?  Can you do me a favor and try to add a new line and see if it still takes it?
Thanks​

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Nancy Hanson
Blytheco LLC
Eagan MN
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2020 11:17
From: Beth Bowers
Subject: No Wage Cap/Alternate Wage Cap

I checked the check box for Alternate Wage Cap in my Michigan setup and it took it.  You don't have to enter the cap anywhere - for Michigan, for example, the cap is either 9000 or 9500 (if you are a delinquent employer) so I am ASSUMING that Sage knows the two numbers and applies them based on the check box being checked, or not.

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Beth Bowers
Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
Beth Bowers
269-445-1625

Looks like @Beth Bowers has the answer.  I wish Sage would have indicated that changing the IL setup would allow the data entry to continue.  I am reluctant to make changes to the default setup when I don't know the implications.  We certainly don't want UC tax to be calculated after the wage cap is exceeded!​

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to."
Oscar Wilde - Alice in Wonderland
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2020 11:28
From: Beth Bowers
Subject: No Wage Cap/Alternate Wage Cap

I added a new line and it was still a happy camper and let me Accept it.

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Beth Bowers
Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
Beth Bowers
269-445-1625
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2020 11:22
From: Nancy Hanson
Subject: No Wage Cap/Alternate Wage Cap

Thanks Beth
Did you try it on an existing line?  Can you do me a favor and try to add a new line and see if it still takes it?
Thanks​

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Nancy Hanson
Blytheco LLC
Eagan MN


Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2020 11:17
From: Beth Bowers
Subject: No Wage Cap/Alternate Wage Cap

I checked the check box for Alternate Wage Cap in my Michigan setup and it took it.  You don't have to enter the cap anywhere - for Michigan, for example, the cap is either 9000 or 9500 (if you are a delinquent employer) so I am ASSUMING that Sage knows the two numbers and applies them based on the check box being checked, or not.

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Beth Bowers
Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
Beth Bowers
269-445-1625

I called Sage about this issue on Tuesday.  I needed to add an Il UC rate change beginning 1/1/2020 and received the same message. 

I talked to Ryan at Sage about the IL unemployment insurance wage limit issue we discussed (support case# 8007920065).  He said the limit is kept on a cloud server and is not maintained in Sage 100.  He also mentioned that the message that was displaying in payroll setup, company tax group maintenance, "The Alternate wage cap is required" is only applicable to Rhode Island and another state, not Illinois.

I created a new record in PR_CompanyTaxGroupRates.M4T by modifying the 1/1/2019 record and answering "No" to delete the existing record.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to."
Oscar Wilde - Alice in Wonderland
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Thanks Doug, I will probably need to do that for each of the Customer's Payroll Companies.
Thank you Beth for taking the time to try it again. 
Weird that it works on Beth's system and not Mine and Doug's.
N​

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Nancy Hanson
Blytheco LLC
Eagan MN
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2020 11:31
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: No Wage Cap/Alternate Wage Cap

I called Sage about this issue on Tuesday.  I needed to add an Il UC rate change beginning 1/1/2020 and received the same message. 

I talked to Ryan at Sage about the IL unemployment insurance wage limit issue we discussed (support case# 8007920065).  He said the limit is kept on a cloud server and is not maintained in Sage 100.  He also mentioned that the message that was displaying in payroll setup, company tax group maintenance, "The Alternate wage cap is required" is only applicable to Rhode Island and another state, not Illinois.

I created a new record in PR_CompanyTaxGroupRates.M4T by modifying the 1/1/2019 record and answering "No" to delete the existing record.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to."
Oscar Wilde - Alice in Wonderland
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