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*** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

  • 1.  *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 08-27-2021 13:28
    Edited by Anne Sawyer 08-27-2021 13:28
    Hi everyone - we are scheduling the next Sage Roundtable for September 29, 2021 at 9am Pacific Time/12 Noon Eastern. 

    More information coming soon! 

    In the meantime, let's get the conversation started.   

    This is what Elliott provided as a base point for discussion.  
    • Production Management incorporation into the base product.
      • Outline the direction we are taking with folding this into the base product. 
      • Present some of the pieces of P/M (Production Management) 
      • Maybe discuss possible Beta partners
    • Maybe some discussion around some of the recent issues around performance?
    • Discussion around future bigger enhancements needed

    Please feel free to add any subjects you would like to discuss below.   Please note that given this is the R&D group - we will not be discussing bundling or pricing.  Thanks! 

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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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  • 2.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 08-28-2021 10:55
    These are important topics.
    I'd also like to hear more about their intentions relating to MS Power Apps integrations. Will they be spearheading any more that haven't yet been released? Is there something we can do to enhance this?

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    Jerry Norman
    At-Large BOD Member, 90 Minds
    Smartbridge Partners
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 3.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 08-30-2021 18:54
    I have a mental list of questions related to SPC (Sage Partner Cloud... the Azure option).  Some kind of roadmap would be nice, to see the high level goals Sage has for the portal.  If it's likely to become abandon-ware, that is also something we need to know. 
    At the top of my list:
    • What is the plan for upgrades?  Will customers be forced to a new server, with the new version pre-installed, or will we be able to upgrade on the existing server (and somehow re-point the "Sage 100" launcher link to the new version)?
    • Advanced / Premium?
    • Are there plans for a proper two server site (Terminal Server / Sage Server)?  As is, to do anything like an Excel query, the SPC server becomes a full remote desktop environment for users, which is not ideal from a security perspective.


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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 4.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 08-30-2021 19:01
    Excellent!

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    Jerry Norman
    At-Large BOD Member, 90 Minds
    Smartbridge Partners
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 5.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-01-2021 11:00
    1. TLS 1.0 and 1.1 will stop being supported by Microsoft soon ( maybe someone knows a more exact date). However, there are probably more than a few Sage 100 customers on v2018 or earlier for which there is no path to TLS 1.2 aside from a full upgrade. In many cases, a full upgrade is problematic because these customers have layered on several integrations and the upgrade time and cost are now prohibitive.  Can there be a TLS 1.2 patch for these older versions who are "stranded' at prior releases for a variety of reasons but most often related to integrations that are complex/costly to upgrade?

    Certainly, customers aren't blameless for failing to upgrade.

    It also seems like Sage should take more of a leadership role in vetting ISV solutions and how they integrate into Sage 100 - especially the ones that install directly into Sage 100 ( as opposed to just a synchronization tool like AP Automation ).

    As I frequently hear when I bring up concerns - everyone knows about this and talks about this. How about we do something about this?

    I also suggest 90 Minds aim higher in establishing discussions with Sage. There's no bigger waste of time than sitting in meetings and discussing an issue and that person has no authority whatsoever to assist. Been there. Done that. Got the T-shirt.

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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 6.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-14-2021 13:55
    Hi - the link to register that was sent by email does now work...

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    Bob Osborn
    Consultant
    ACI Consulting
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  • 7.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-14-2021 14:01
    Same here, but within Chrome I was able to see and fix the typos after the redirect to Zoom.
    Remove the %20%20 and add a ":" after the https

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 8.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-14-2021 14:12
    Thanks!  I have resent the email with the repaired link to register.

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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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  • 9.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-14-2021 16:15
    Just a reminder - to add any comments or suggestions here for the next Development Roundtable.  Thanks!

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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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  • 10.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-15-2021 10:39
    Anne
    I don't know if this is the place but has there been any discussion about Windows 11 tentatively coming out Oct 11 and Sage 100 regarding compatibility.  We all have that customer that is going to want to update their computers to be on cutting edge of technology.  
    Thanks
    Nancy

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    Nancy Hanson
    Blytheco LLC
    Eagan MN
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  • 11.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-15-2021 10:46
    I have the same question about compatibility for Windows Server 2022 (just released).
    https://www.sagecity.com/support_communities/sage100_erp/f/sage-100-technical-and-installation-discussions/175074/windows-server-2022

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 12.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-15-2021 10:49
    Edited by Wayne Schulz 09-15-2021 11:16
    Sage added a KB entry on this yesterday.

    Essentially Sage says they will ( expect to ) support 11 on their 2020 and 2021 versions.

    They go on to say that 2022 should roll out March/April and expect to support Windows 11 there as well.

    I believe Windows 11 is due on or about October 5, 2021.

    My concern is that Sage seems to silently rewrite what “supported version” means.

    I tell customers that a supported version is one that Sage will issue a PU regularly for. That seems to have silently slipped to be N-1

    Being able to call and ask Sage a question on an N-3 is not as useful since they may not issue a fix for a problem on say 2019 even though it’s on the supported list thru the 2022 release.

    And customers, as you likely know, are on N-3 frequently because of the boatload of add-ons( for which there are few apparent rules on ease of upgrade or even the speed at which they should be upgraded ).

    These add-ons are expensive and time consuming to release which results in customers not upgrading.

    Sage asks “why don’t people upgrade” but I don’t think they like the answers —- or they lack the ability to do anything.

    It’s the same poor management of the product that sees Sage only update their release schedule on the day they actually release the update or version. At least they’re never late under that method.




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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 13.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-15-2021 11:30
    From what I have read about Win 11, it requires a minimum hardware level to support.  Many users will eventually get there, but WIN 11 probably not will probably not gain traction for a least a year IT staffs begin to roll it out.  But this doesn't let Sage off the hook for upgrades.

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 14.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-15-2021 11:38
    It would be my wish that Elliot (Sage) come clean with how their hands are tied.  Sage's focus is NOT Sage 100.  What does this exactly mean for the product?  We all have our hopes and dreams for the products future but there are limits to what can/will be done?  Can they speak frankly with us?  Where is the ship headed at quarter sail?

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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    Original Message


  • 15.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-16-2021 09:15
    I heard from a reliable source at Sage that testing for Windows 11 will happen with v2020 and v2021, but the testing will happen upon release of Windows 11 because testing pre-releases has proven to be ineffective.  To Wayne's point, I am not sure why they aren't testing v2019 since it is a supported version (N-3).

    @Kevin Moyes - I believe Windows Server 2022 will be tested in the coming months with v2020, v2021 and v2022 with the release of v2022 being the catalyst.  I have nothing definitive to support this statement...only reading between the lines, if you will.

    Other things the group may want to think about asking Sage about are:

    1. eBusiness Manager replacement - it would be nice if Sage would do something to provide an open API for websites like Shopify, Magento, BigCommerce, etc. to push and pull data from Sage 100 in terms of customer information, inventory information, orders, invoices, etc.  I think most people today have their own website, and they really just need it to communicate with Sage as simply as possible.  Obviously, CimCloud does way more than just communicate with the website.

    2. Point of Sale - could be something similar to the eBiz Mgr replacement, or maybe Sage needs to develop something that resides inside Sage 100?  What do most customers really need?  Cash drawers, end of day closes, layaways?

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    Brian Kelly
    Accounting Systems, Inc. (ASI)
    Columbia SC
    803-454-6262
    http://www.asifocus.com/
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  • 16.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-16-2021 09:36
    How about something cool using the MS Power Apps?  For example, have a cash receipts app.  Use you phone to take a picture of the checks and the app sums the check amount and creates a deposit in Sage 100.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 17.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-16-2021 11:41
    Thank you for all the feedback and questions.  Much of it has been relayed to several team members at Sage.   Stay tuned and feel free to keep them coming.

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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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  • 18.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-16-2021 15:48
    Edited by Bob Pfahnl 09-17-2021 17:41
    What’s the status of the Mod Squad? 
    Sage Intelligence replacement?

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    Bob Pfahnl
    Manager - Silicon Valley
    DSD Business Systems
    San Diego CA
    408-641-0922
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  • 19.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-18-2021 11:02

    @Bob Pfahnl The Mod Squad is strong and active. We meet twice a year and submit recommendations to Sage then. Our second session of this year is about to start. I had a couple of personal things come up pushing us to start later but we will be getting started in the next couple of weeks.

    We are discussing how to involve the larger membership in the process so expect more on that in the next month or two.​



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    Admin Robert Wood
    Consultant
    90 Minds, Inc.
    Ocala FL
    352-615-5898
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  • 20.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-20-2021 15:19
    A user should not be able to enter general ledger account numbers which in turn act as a control account in places like Department Maintenance if the account is invalid ( status = deleted/inactive). Sage does prevent entering an account and gives a warning ( you also can't use a lookup to select the account )

    However 

    If the account is already in use in department maintenance then Sage should prevent the user from flagging it as delete/inactive in the general ledger module and require the user to change the account number in department maintenance PRIOR to taking any action to invalidate the account number.

    By not doing so the user may not know until a critical time such as when they are printing payroll checks that an account in department maintenance is invalid.

    Sage doesn't seem to check for a valid account ( within Department Maintenance ) until the register is about to be printed -- and ACH generated -- there is a possibility that payroll will come to a halt until someone can chase down the error message.

    This may occur in other areas of Sage as well. I just ran across it in payroll and haven't checked whether it's also a problem in other control account areas like setup or AR / AP division maintenance.

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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 21.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-21-2021 08:03
    @Wayne Schulz - sounds pretty Mod Squad-y, IMHO.  Have an error message that shows where it's being used.​

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Tennessee Software Solutions
    269-445-1625
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  • 22.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-21-2021 13:19
    Edited by Bill Pfahnl 09-21-2021 13:20
    @Wayne Schulz. This has been on the Mod Squad list since early 2020. Sounds like we should recommend additional controls.

    MS-GL074 Security GL Posting restrictions on control accounts. GL control accounts (Inventory, AP, AR, Cash, Puchases Clearing, WIP) should have posting restrictions that only allow direct postings from proper subsidiary modules. Role security would allow override GL adjustments to control accounts. It's too easy for these accounts to become out-of-balance with the modules. 

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    Bill Pfahnl
    Nims & Associates
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  • 23.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-21-2021 13:42
    Wow @Bill Pfahnl - What a blast from the past.  Back in the mid 80's, the System 36 with RPG programming was all rage, my IT programmer took two weeks to make this a reality.  It REALLY is a useful feature!!!  But will it sell new licenses by itself?  But taken on the whole, our competitors will sell more licenses...
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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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    Original Message


  • 24.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-21-2021 19:56
    Is there an updated list of integrated programs with Sage on SPC either certified or in testing?  e.g. Repay/APS, Century Business eBizCharge credit card processing. 
    What about users ability to download Aatrix updates in the SPC environment?

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    Barbara Goldstein
    Sr. Consultant
    DSD Business Systems
    San Jose CA
    800.627.9032 x221
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  • 25.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-22-2021 08:35
    August 13, 2021 - Sage Partner Hub 



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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 26.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-22-2021 09:33
    Workstation setup should install all relevant components.
    This likely includes testing to ensure that the person installing has local administrator rights prior to beginning
    The typical Sage 100 user has changed significantly from 15 years ago - yet the workstation setup has barely evolved and presently requires a user be familiar with what aspects of Sage they will use which of those require a separate installation

    1. Workstation Setup
    2. Federal and State Tax Filing ( needed for MICR as well as e-filing )
    3. Bar code fonts
    4. Paya Connect Desktop
    5. Copy activate.pvx for Adv/Prem to local

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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 27.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-22-2021 11:41
    Any information on how the Sage 100 64 bit version is being accepted.  Things learned since last March?

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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    Original Message


  • 28.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-22-2021 14:45
    Hi everyone!  We have shared all of the above with SAGE including Development and Product Management.  This should be a great roundtable!  Thank you for your input.

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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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  • 29.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-29-2021 08:51

    Anne

    I apologize if I missed this somewhere but for the Round Table information, do you have how we need to connect in today for this? This is my first year attending as a 90 minds member so I'm a bit of a noob on this front :-) 

    Thanks
    Tara Schinkel



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    Tara Schinkel
    Consultant
    Stewart Technologies, Inc.
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  • 30.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-29-2021 09:09
    This is the link that I received in the email

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    Wayne Schulz
    Schulz Consulting
    860-516-8990
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  • 31.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-29-2021 09:12

    Thanks a bunch Wayne �� Truly appreciate it.

     

    Tara Morgan Schinkel, CPA
    Stewart Technologies, Inc.

    Sage 100 Certified Consultant

    Act!/Sage CRM Certified Consultant

    785 Elkridge Landing Road, Suite 150

    Linthicum, MD 21090

    410 – 309 – 9550 x1104

     




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  • 32.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-29-2021 09:27
    @Tara Schinkel - No need to feel like a noob.  We've all been there.  I feel like a noob every time i ​access the Sage partner portal.  The good news is that you will a 90M non noob in no time.  I wish I could say the same about the Sage portal......

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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  • 33.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-29-2021 10:18
    I sent the link via email.  Please note this is for consultant members only.  Thanks! 

    Hi there,

    You are invited to a Zoom webinar.
    When: Sep 29, 2021 09:00 AM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
    Topic: SAGE DEVELOPMENT ROUNDTABLE

    Register in advance for this webinar:
    https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_he0nhL8wTOq-bSFUpPzuuw


    After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar.


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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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  • 34.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-29-2021 13:16
    Thanks @Anne Sawyer for putting this together.  Great job!  Very much appreciated.
    ​

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    Jeff Schwenk
    FORMER 90M Board Member -140,000,000 is a TERRIBLE thing to waste!!!
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    540-221-4444
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    Original Message


  • 35.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-29-2021 13:58
    My pleasure!  I look forward to the next one.  I will share the Q&As and slide deck with everyone when I get them.  Thanks!

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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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  • 36.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-30-2021 14:21
    I somehow missed this email & webinar.  was it recorded?  can the results be forwarded?

    alan

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    alan niergarth
    Velosio LLC
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  • 37.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 09-30-2021 14:53
    Alan

    Due to the nature of the conversations we have committed to Sage to not record these sessions.

    We need to see why you didn't get the email blasts that were sent out announcing and reminding members about this event.

    Sage is sharing the slide deck with us and we can share that. 

    --
    Robert Wood
    90 Minds President

    --

    Sent from my portable brain



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  • 38.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 10-01-2021 08:23
    Robert, is the PPT available now or has Sage not yet released it?  I attended but haven't seen a followup.

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    Susan Pawlowic
    Sage 100 Solutions Architect
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
    spawlowic@rklesolutions.com
    (717) 735-9109 Ext. 4352
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  • 39.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 10-01-2021 11:38
    I haven't seen it yet.

    @Anne Sawyer, has Sage sent the PPT over?​

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    Robert Wood
    DDF Consulting Group, Inc.
    Ocala FL
    352-615-5898
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  • 40.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 10-01-2021 13:07
    Hi everyone - I am still waiting on the slide deck and will share as soon as I get it.

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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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  • 41.  RE: *** New SAGE Roundtable September 29, 2021****

    Posted 10-13-2021 16:29
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    Hi everyone - Attached is the slide deck sent over by SAGE from the last Development Roundtable.  Thank you for your patience.

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    Anne Sawyer
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
    CA
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