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  • 1.  Microsoft Teams

    Posted 02-28-2019 11:02
    <g class="gr_ gr_5 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Grammar only-ins replaceWithoutSep" id="5" data-gr-id="5">Anyone</g> actively using Microsoft Teams? Any advice on how you <g class="gr_ gr_4 gr-alert gr_spell gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim ContextualSpelling ins-del" id="4" data-gr-id="4">setup</g> your Team and Channel structure for our industry to keep things well organized but easily retrievable?

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    Mark Chinsky
    Clients First Business Solutions
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  • 2.  RE: Microsoft Teams

    Posted 02-28-2019 13:27

    1. Fewer Teams, more Channels where possible. And keep Channels to a minimum where possible too. Teams should be organized around the people you want collaborating on a topic.

    For example, if only Bill, Sue, and Henry work on "Product X" - that might be a better Team than a Channel because it can be hidden away and not show up / distract non-interested parties.

    2. Make sure people know the cardinal rule of Teams: If you don't specifically @ mention them, assume no one read your comments and they are there for posterity's sake. 

    And the converse is: If you want someone or a group's attention, use the @ mention.

    3. Use the Wiki and not a conversation thread for collaborative discussions. The wiki is still very limited but it is 100x better than having an important conversation get out of control (and eventually buried) in the conversations thread.

    With the wiki, we find it useful to put initials and date in front of comments. 

    4. Start slowly and add slowly to the structure. It can quickly get out of control if you don't watch out. 

    SPECIFICS:

    1. We have an Azamba general Team for everyone. In there, we have some specific-topic Channels that are open for all (such as Microsoft CSP program information and conversations) to see but most people ignore.

    2. We have group-specific Teams for restricted conversations. The restrictions might be "Executive Team" or it might simply be "90% of the firm won't be interested, so let's compartmentalize this stuff."

    3. We have some specialized teams around a very specific topic. For example, we have an "OnTrack" team. OnTrack is our primary services plan for customers. We have discussions in there about value, marketing materials, sales feedback, development of additional services, and customer case study conversations. We could have put this in the Azamba general Team but it's so important that we split it off.

    I hope that helps. If you have specific questions, fire away.

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    Peter Wolf
    Azamba Consulting Group
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  • 3.  RE: Microsoft Teams

    Posted 03-01-2019 00:31
    One alternate to what Peter said is using OneNote for meeting notes instead of the wiki. My issue with the wiki is that they don't have a search function yet, and there's not much you can do with it. OneNote is completely searchable, and your can share a page with others as needed.

    Agree on using fewer channels. Channels are for topics within the team. You can't limit who sees the channel, you can only limit who sees the team.

    Pay attention to the teams admin console settings. You might have things turned on our off that you didn't know about.

    Teams tabs linking SharePoint spaces and other apps can be good, but monitor if it's really helping our not.

    I really like the feature of being able to call someone via teams in the middle of a conversation and continue the call notes in the conversation. Yes, the info can be lost in the conversation, but the conversations are searchable, and they are linked to the call mtg event.


    Clark Walliser
    DSD Business Systems



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    <g class="gr_ gr_5 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Grammar only-ins replaceWithoutSep" id="5" data-gr-id="5">Anyone</g> actively using Microsoft Teams? Any advice on how you <g class="gr_ gr_4 gr-alert gr_spell gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim ContextualSpelling ins-del" id="4" data-gr-id="4">setup</g> your Team and Channel structure for our industry to keep things well organized but easily retrievable?

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    Mark Chinsky
    Clients First Business Solutions
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  • 4.  RE: Microsoft Teams

    Posted 03-01-2019 10:40

    @Clark Walliser, What do you mean in your last paragraph?

    Yea, <g class="gr_ gr_75 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Grammar only-ins doubleReplace replaceWithoutSep" id="75" data-gr-id="75">problem</g> with channels not having security is if you wanted to use the guest feature to create teams for projects, you'll end up with a million teams and no '<g class="gr_ gr_180 gr-alert gr_spell gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim ContextualSpelling ins-del multiReplace" id="180" data-gr-id="180">hierchy</g>' because there is no folder structure for teams and no security for channels.

    Microsoft really has to address this deficiency



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    Mark Chinsky
    Clients First Business Solutions
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  • 5.  RE: Microsoft Teams

    Posted 03-01-2019 15:20

    Yes - the lack of security at the Channel level is a pain in the rear. We have 50-some client Teams (and growing every week). 

    The problem behind that is the very concept of "Teams". A Team is meant to signify a group of people who do work among different Channels of specific activities. So from the Microsoft view of the world, the idea of securing each Channel uniquely breaks their vision of Teams.

    In the end, I don't care about that - I just want a better structure - same as you - same as 90% of people using Teams.

    To Clark's point about using OneNote - yes, he is right. The wiki is pretty weak. We have committed to making our lives simpler and reducing the complexity by sticking within the Wiki, with the hopes that Microsoft continues to push out improved functionality. It's hard sometimes though. Even something simple like have sub-points under a numbered list. It just doesn't work like it should. 



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    Peter Wolf
    Azamba Consulting Group
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  • 6.  RE: Microsoft Teams

    Posted 03-02-2019 02:04
    When I'm in a chat conversation, if I want to call others about the conversation I can click on the video icon. It turns the conversation into a teams meeting call with a subject title. Then I choose the people and call them. As we are talking I continue writing notes in the conversation, which is now associated with this call. Later, I can search for the meeting subject title by typing it in the search bar at the top.
    I stumbled on this process, but I like it so far.

    Clark Walliser
    DSD Business Systems



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    @Clark Walliser, What do you mean in your last paragraph?

    Yea, <g class="gr_ gr_75 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Grammar only-ins doubleReplace replaceWithoutSep" id="75" data-gr-id="75">problem</g> with channels not having security is if you wanted to use the guest feature to create teams for projects, you'll end up with a million teams and no '<g class="gr_ gr_180 gr-alert gr_spell gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim ContextualSpelling ins-del multiReplace" id="180" data-gr-id="180">hierchy</g>' because there is no folder structure for teams and no security for channels.

    Microsoft really has to address this deficiency



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    Mark Chinsky
    Clients First Business Solutions
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