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  • 1.  Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-05-2024 09:40

    Client is on Knowledge Sync 9.0.  This week we installed .NET 6.x for use with StarShip v24.0 and "since then" we have been having problems keeping Knowledge Sync Service.  When I logged on today and checked Task Master, only KS_Serv.exe and KS_Util.exe were running.  From memory, that Util task is the issue.  I killed all tasks and restarted alerts from Services.  It allowed me to manually send an alert but then it stopped working again.  I stopped the service and confirmed all tasks ended.  When I try and start the service again, it will not start.  Error 1053:  The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely manner.

    Anyone remember what we need to do to resolve the KS_UTIL.exe issue?  Anyone have a link to the old KB Articles on Knowledge Sync v9.0?  

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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 2.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-05-2024 12:10

    I found this in Sage City, which seems to imply that stopping KS_UTIL.EXE was what solved their issue.

    Summary: 

    TomTarget, over 8 years ago, encountered an issue where alerts were not being delivered from Knowledgesync. He found that the "ks-util" program was running on the server since Saturday and upon terminating it, the alerts started working again. Despite searching, he couldn't find relevant information in the KnowledgeSync knowledgebase.

    In response, BigLouie, also over 8 years ago, recalled that "ks-util" might be the utility for creating the access database. His usual fix for similar issues was to stop the service, end any running KS_ processes via task manager, and then restart the service. TomTarget, replying to BigLouie, agreed with this possible explanation but was unsure how "ks-util" started autonomously, as the client was not familiar with it.



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 3.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-05-2024 13:49

    @Wayne Schulz that is exactly what I was looking for.  i recall that task was a problem.  However, when I killed that it broke being able to log in at all.  We will reboot tonight to see if it resolves.  And I have a call scheduled with ECI on Monday Morning just incase it does not resolve. Thanks. 



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 4.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-05-2024 15:02
    Madeline

    If you need help outside of this - feel free to reach out to Jhiam and I. We do a lot of work with Sage Alerts (Jhiam is actually giving a presentation on it at 90 minds this year). 

    Tara Morgan Schinkel, CPA

    Stewart Technologies, Inc.

    Sage Intacct Certified Implementor

    Sage 100 Certified Consultant

    Act!/Sage CRM Certified Consultant

    785 Elkridge Landing Road, Suite 150

    Linthicum, MD 21090

    410 – 309 – 9550 x1104

    www.stewarttechnologies.com

     






  • 5.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-10-2024 09:20

    Thank you Tara... After multiple daily calls with ECI Support, we finally got it resolved.  The Database had grown larger than 1GB in size.  They were able to take it back to their system, compact the database, truncate history, set history moving forward to less days and "voila".  We are all set.  It is really disappointing that I opened the ticket on Wednesday 1/4/24; and it took until yesterday 1/9/24 to get a tech connected with the system.  The client lives and breaths from their alerts and were down for virtually a week.  Next Time @Tara Schinkel I will probably reach out to you guys for assistance. 



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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 6.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-10-2024 09:36

    I've used KnowledgeSync in the past and found it confusing and user-unfriendly. Its modular structure made it hard to understand. Getting support was a hassle, requiring contact with both Sage and KS's parent company. While it's often chosen because Sage recommends it, I prefer VisualCut for similar tasks; it's more cost-effective and has better support, despite a challenging UI. From my experience, I recommend being cautious with new KnowledgeSync deals unless you're well-versed in it or plan on using subcontracted support, as customer requests tend to pile up.



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    Wayne Schulz
    wayne@s-consult.com
    Schulz Consulting
    (860) 516-8990
    Moodus, CT
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  • 7.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-10-2024 09:40

    I agree @Wayne Schulz  Also, they used to ask if you were certified on KS when yo called for tech support.  They would usually give you a pass and threaten that next time you could be denied tech support unless you are certified.    Not sure if that's still the same policy as I haven;t called in a while.  if I had to be certified on every third party product my customers own then there would be issues!



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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Chauffeur, Chef, and Personal Assistant to Sprinkles
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  • 8.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-10-2024 10:17

    I agree with Doug and Wayne.  The one area that KS did better than Visual Cut (new / changed records type alerts) is now dealt with via a new program by the same developer as Visual Cut called ActionQ (which does the same thing at a much lower cost, and so much more, with less complexity in the interface).  Simply automating a custom report is so much easier with VC it isn't funny.  Support, no comparison.  Almost all of our KS / Business Alerts clients have converted to VC for report automation.



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 9.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-10-2024 10:56
    It's definitely not the easiest at times - we've experienced a big learning curve with 10 but we have a bunch of customers on it so we just became really well versed on it. Plus it's a great way to help get tier credit (from Sage) ��



    Thanks for the recommendation on Visual Cut. We'll have to check that out as well

    Tara Morgan Schinkel, CPA

    Stewart Technologies, Inc.

    Sage Intacct Certified Implementor

    Sage 100 Certified Consultant

    Act!/Sage CRM Certified Consultant

    785 Elkridge Landing Road, Suite 150

    Linthicum, MD 21090

    410 – 309 – 9550 x1104

    www.stewarttechnologies.com

     






  • 10.  RE: Knowledge Sync v9 - service won't start

    Posted 01-10-2024 10:59
    Edited by Kevin Moyes 01-10-2024 10:59

    I did a 90-Minds webinar (about Visual Cut) a few years ago... I bet the video is still kicking around somewhere.



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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