"Does a normal Sage 100 user using the client on their laptop use the print spooler on the server or on their laptop?"  I was thinking 'server' for Advanced/Premium and 'workstation' for Standard, but wasn't sure.  This is related to a Cybersecurity Alert:  PrintNightmare, Critical Windows Print Spooler Vulnerability (06/30/2021 05:32 PM EDT)

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Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area
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Nice catch. I could see more questions coming from IT. Hopefully shutting down or disabling a server print spoiler won’t impact Sage.

More https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/2/22560435/microsoft-printnightmare-windows-print-spooler-service-vulnerability-exploit-0-day

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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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I believe the job spools on the same computer that processes the print job.  Crystal reports always processes the job at the workstation that initiated the print job, so it would seem the print job should always spool at the workstation for Standard, Advanced, or Premium.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Thanks!  Some other info I obtained:

• "I believe it depends more on where the print driver resides…i.e., network or local printer."
• "If the printer is installed locally, then it's going to use the local spooler.  If they are printing via RDP, server spooler is involved.  If the printer is shared via Windows sharing, it uses the server spooler (I'm pretty sure).  If it's shared via IP on the network, I believe that will be local spooler."

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Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 08:16
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

I believe the job spools on the same computer that processes the print job.  Crystal reports always processes the job at the workstation that initiated the print job, so it would seem the print job should always spool at the workstation for Standard, Advanced, or Premium.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Have you found anything which indicates the IT department needs to pay special attention to Sage's needs with reference to potentially shutting down any print spoolers? Or does Sage use the print spooler in pretty much the same way as any other network application and therefore doesn't require special consideration?

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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 12:01
From: Brett Zimmerman
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

Thanks!  Some other info I obtained:

• "I believe it depends more on where the print driver resides…i.e., network or local printer."
• "If the printer is installed locally, then it's going to use the local spooler.  If they are printing via RDP, server spooler is involved.  If the printer is shared via Windows sharing, it uses the server spooler (I'm pretty sure).  If it's shared via IP on the network, I believe that will be local spooler."

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Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 08:16
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

I believe the job spools on the same computer that processes the print job.  Crystal reports always processes the job at the workstation that initiated the print job, so it would seem the print job should always spool at the workstation for Standard, Advanced, or Premium.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary

Even if it is a network printer the appropriate driver gets installed on the workstation.

However, you may be correct about spooling where the printer is installed, but I am not sure.  If this is correct, then no wonder users complain about Sage 100 being slow.  Crystal reports always renders the print job at the workstation. If the printer is installed on the server and the spooling is done on the server, then that means data needs to first transmit to the workstation, be assembled for printing, then be transmitted back to the server for spooling.  That's a lot of network traffic.  It wouldn't technically be Sage 100 that's slow, it's the lack of available bandwidth.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 12:01
From: Brett Zimmerman
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

Thanks!  Some other info I obtained:

• "I believe it depends more on where the print driver resides…i.e., network or local printer."
• "If the printer is installed locally, then it's going to use the local spooler.  If they are printing via RDP, server spooler is involved.  If the printer is shared via Windows sharing, it uses the server spooler (I'm pretty sure).  If it's shared via IP on the network, I believe that will be local spooler."

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Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 08:16
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

I believe the job spools on the same computer that processes the print job.  Crystal reports always processes the job at the workstation that initiated the print job, so it would seem the print job should always spool at the workstation for Standard, Advanced, or Premium.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary

@Wayne Schulz, I'm not sure (to both your questions), but obviously Microsoft released an Update today. ​​

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Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 12:08
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

Even if it is a network printer the appropriate driver gets installed on the workstation.

However, you may be correct about spooling where the printer is installed, but I am not sure.  If this is correct, then no wonder users complain about Sage 100 being slow.  Crystal reports always renders the print job at the workstation. If the printer is installed on the server and the spooling is done on the server, then that means data needs to first transmit to the workstation, be assembled for printing, then be transmitted back to the server for spooling.  That's a lot of network traffic.  It wouldn't technically be Sage 100 that's slow, it's the lack of available bandwidth.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 12:01
From: Brett Zimmerman
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

Thanks!  Some other info I obtained:

• "I believe it depends more on where the print driver resides…i.e., network or local printer."
• "If the printer is installed locally, then it's going to use the local spooler.  If they are printing via RDP, server spooler is involved.  If the printer is shared via Windows sharing, it uses the server spooler (I'm pretty sure).  If it's shared via IP on the network, I believe that will be local spooler."

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Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area


Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 08:16
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

I believe the job spools on the same computer that processes the print job.  Crystal reports always processes the job at the workstation that initiated the print job, so it would seem the print job should always spool at the workstation for Standard, Advanced, or Premium.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary

Sage has published the below KB Article, including, “All of our Sage software products depend on the print spooler being enabled to some extent”.  Thanks, @Wayne Schulz.

​​

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Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-07-2021 15:14
From: Brett Zimmerman
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

@Wayne Schulz, I'm not sure (to both your questions), but obviously Microsoft released an Update today. ​​

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Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 12:08
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

Even if it is a network printer the appropriate driver gets installed on the workstation.

However, you may be correct about spooling where the printer is installed, but I am not sure.  If this is correct, then no wonder users complain about Sage 100 being slow.  Crystal reports always renders the print job at the workstation. If the printer is installed on the server and the spooling is done on the server, then that means data needs to first transmit to the workstation, be assembled for printing, then be transmitted back to the server for spooling.  That's a lot of network traffic.  It wouldn't technically be Sage 100 that's slow, it's the lack of available bandwidth.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary


Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 12:01
From: Brett Zimmerman
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

Thanks!  Some other info I obtained:

• "I believe it depends more on where the print driver resides…i.e., network or local printer."
• "If the printer is installed locally, then it's going to use the local spooler.  If they are printing via RDP, server spooler is involved.  If the printer is shared via Windows sharing, it uses the server spooler (I'm pretty sure).  If it's shared via IP on the network, I believe that will be local spooler."

------------------------------
Brett Zimmerman
Net at Work
Greater Boston Area


Original Message:
Sent: 07-02-2021 08:16
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Is Print Spooler on server or workstation used?

I believe the job spools on the same computer that processes the print job.  Crystal reports always processes the job at the workstation that initiated the print job, so it would seem the print job should always spool at the workstation for Standard, Advanced, or Premium.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary