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Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

  • 1.  Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-10-2025 12:21

    The import job is super-simple importing just 3 fields

    • Item Code
    • Warehouse code
    • Quantity Counted

    I've been troubleshooting and I can't find any reason to explain this, but after testing (details below) I can confidently say:

    • if an item is frozen with a qty on hand of zero, then the quantity counted will not be updated.
    • If the item is not frozen, then it will import correctly.
    • If the item is frozen and has a quantity on hand <> 0 then it will import correctly.

    Here is what I have tested

    • Created a brand new import job  
      • Same results
    • Froze just one item with a qty on hand of zero and imported from a file with just that one item
      • Same Results
    • I used DFDM to edit IM_Physical and changed the field QuantityOnHand for that one item and gave it a value of 1and imported from the same source file
      • THIS TIME the import worked and did update the quantity counted
    • I then cleared all frozen items and imported from the same source file
      • This also Worked and added a new record to IM_Physical table for that item with the correct Quantity Counted
    • I used DFDM to edit IM_Physical and changed the field QuantityOnHand and Quantity counted for that one item and gave it a value of 0 and imported from the same source file
      • This did not work; it left the quantity counted field at zero

    That's all I got so far!



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    David Overholt
    Programmer/Project Manager
    DWD Technology Group
    Fort Wayne IN
    (260) 399-8655
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  • 2.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-10-2025 12:50

    Any enhancements?  I think multi-bin might change the physical count object behavior, adding bin to the primary key.



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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 3.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-10-2025 13:18

    I did find a KB article that was related to multi-bin basic with this similar behavior,  but they only have the 2 add-ons

    Operation management

    Avalara/Avatax

     

    But you did get my curiosity up so I looked at the Data dictionary for IM_Physical, and it looks the same as my version 2022 (at least the keys are the same).

    I did notice something new the time and date updated on the record is not changing, so it I not just that field not getting updated, the record is not being written at all!

     

     

     

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  • 4.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-10-2025 13:39

    Does it possibly have to do with whether an IM_ItemWarehouse record already exists or not for a given item?



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    Brett Zimmerman
    Net at Work
    Greater Boston Area
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  • 5.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-10-2025 14:37

    I have had success with physical count imports only if I add the Lot/Serial field.  It can point to a column with blank values, if your items are not lot/serial valuation.  I don't know if this will solve your issue, but you may need this component in your import regardless.



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    Susan Pawlowic
    Sage 100 Solutions Architect
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 6.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-10-2025 16:45

    Which Sage Version?



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    Jeff Schwenk
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    Waynesboro VA
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  • 7.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-10-2025 17:59

    Thanks everyone! Sorry I went radio silent for a bit; I got sucked into one meeting after another this afternoon.

    @Jeff Schwenk This is Sage 100 version 2022 PU 5 (Upgrading might solve this, but who knows)

    @Susan Pawlowic Good idea but still getting the same results after adding the lot serial and pointing to a blank column

    @Brett Zimmerman interesting thought, but there is a warehouse record for the items I am testing, but the items are all average cost so there would not be any records in IM_ItemCost table. I may explore looking for or making an item with FIFO cost and see if that produces any results. but that will have to be tomorrow's task. 



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    David Overholt
    Programmer/Project Manager
    DWD Technology Group
    Fort Wayne IN
    (260) 399-8655
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  • 8.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-11-2025 09:41

    This can be taken out of urgent. We have not found a resolution, but we do have a workaround for this client. 

    Here is their count prosses:

    They generate count sheets from IM_ItemWarehouse -> then count inventory -> fix count issues -> Freeze Inventory -> Import using the VI Job -> Update Variance in Sage -> Post transaction register -> fix any other issues via Item Adjustments.

    Since they don't freeze until just before they import, they will import the problematic items into the IM_Physical table before they freeze -> then freeze ->then import the rest of the inventory counts. 

    That is considerably faster than manually updating the problematic items after the Inventory freeze. It's an extra step but it's not that time consuming to create an import that only has the 0 on hand quantity items. They will try it this weekend with the next couple of inventories and let me know how that goes.



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    David Overholt
    Programmer/Project Manager
    DWD Technology Group
    Fort Wayne IN
    (260) 399-8655
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  • 9.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-11-2025 11:07

    Good to hear.

    So are you saying, VI will not ADD the item to the frozen table?  I am foggy on the processing details.



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Owner
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    (540) 221-4444

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  • 10.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-11-2025 11:27

    Short answer is

    If the item is frozen and the quantity on hand is zero then the frozen record is not updated.

    If the item is not frozen then when importing from VI the item gets frozen and the quantity counted is updated too.

     

    I suspect that this is specific to the version or something related to operations management in that version, but if our workaround satisfies this client's need, I hate giving up but I may have to call it quits.

     

     

     

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    David Overholt

    DWD Technology Group, Inc.

    9921 Dupont Circle Drive West, Suite 300 | Fort Wayne, IN 46825

    260.423.2414 main

    260.399.8655 Direct

    800.232.8913 toll free

    sagesupport@dwdtechgroup.com

    www.dwdtechgroup.com

     

     






  • 11.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-11-2025 17:28

    This is a perfect defect to submit.  If they don't fix it, I would like to hear the WAD reason.  This could go on the thread for quick fixes.



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Owner
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    (540) 221-4444

    Improving bottom lines for over 25 years!
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  • 12.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-30-2025 15:42

    This can be removed from urgent. 

    I went up 3 rungs in the Sage support queue and have figured out how to resolve my issue. We removed the standard perform logic that is included in the physical count VI job and that fixed the issue. I don't have an explanation of WHY the perform logic caused the VI to not update the items, but I have a fix and wanted to post it here in case anyone else sees this happening.  If I get down time, I will look at the providex code in that perform logic and see if I can provide more information.. 

    Both clients where I saw this happen had Avalara. I can't imagine Avalara causing issues with a physical count import job. 



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    David Overholt
    Programmer/Project Manager
    DWD Technology Group
    Fort Wayne IN
    (260) 399-8655
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  • 13.  RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero

    Posted 12-30-2025 19:09

    Very interested in this.  Please keep us informed



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    Jeff Schwenk
    Owner
    Bottomline Software, Inc.
    Waynesboro VA
    (540) 221-4444

    Improving bottom lines for over 25 years!
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