Bottomline Software, Inc.
Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2025 15:42
From: David Overholt
Subject: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
This can be removed from urgent.
I went up 3 rungs in the Sage support queue and have figured out how to resolve my issue. We removed the standard perform logic that is included in the physical count VI job and that fixed the issue. I don't have an explanation of WHY the perform logic caused the VI to not update the items, but I have a fix and wanted to post it here in case anyone else sees this happening. If I get down time, I will look at the providex code in that perform logic and see if I can provide more information..
Both clients where I saw this happen had Avalara. I can't imagine Avalara causing issues with a physical count import job.
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David Overholt
Programmer/Project Manager
DWD Technology Group
Fort Wayne IN
(260) 399-8655
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-11-2025 17:28
From: Jeff Schwenk
Subject: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
This is a perfect defect to submit. If they don't fix it, I would like to hear the WAD reason. This could go on the thread for quick fixes.
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Jeff Schwenk
Owner
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
(540) 221-4444
Improving bottom lines for over 25 years!
Original Message:
Sent: 12-11-2025 11:27
From: David Overholt
Subject: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
Short answer is
If the item is frozen and the quantity on hand is zero then the frozen record is not updated.
If the item is not frozen then when importing from VI the item gets frozen and the quantity counted is updated too.
I suspect that this is specific to the version or something related to operations management in that version, but if our workaround satisfies this client's need, I hate giving up but I may have to call it quits.
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David Overholt
DWD Technology Group, Inc.
9921 Dupont Circle Drive West, Suite 300 | Fort Wayne, IN 46825
260.423.2414 main
260.399.8655 Direct
800.232.8913 toll free
sagesupport@dwdtechgroup.com
www.dwdtechgroup.com

Original Message:
Sent: 12/11/2025 11:07:00 AM
From: Jeff Schwenk
Subject: RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
Good to hear.
So are you saying, VI will not ADD the item to the frozen table? I am foggy on the processing details.
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Jeff Schwenk
Owner
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
(540) 221-4444
Improving bottom lines for over 25 years!
Original Message:
Sent: 12-11-2025 09:41
From: David Overholt
Subject: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
This can be taken out of urgent. We have not found a resolution, but we do have a workaround for this client.
Here is their count prosses:
They generate count sheets from IM_ItemWarehouse -> then count inventory -> fix count issues -> Freeze Inventory -> Import using the VI Job -> Update Variance in Sage -> Post transaction register -> fix any other issues via Item Adjustments.
Since they don't freeze until just before they import, they will import the problematic items into the IM_Physical table before they freeze -> then freeze ->then import the rest of the inventory counts.
That is considerably faster than manually updating the problematic items after the Inventory freeze. It's an extra step but it's not that time consuming to create an import that only has the 0 on hand quantity items. They will try it this weekend with the next couple of inventories and let me know how that goes.
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David Overholt
Programmer/Project Manager
DWD Technology Group
Fort Wayne IN
(260) 399-8655
Original Message:
Sent: 12-10-2025 17:58
From: David Overholt
Subject: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
Thanks everyone! Sorry I went radio silent for a bit; I got sucked into one meeting after another this afternoon.
@Jeff Schwenk This is Sage 100 version 2022 PU 5 (Upgrading might solve this, but who knows)
@Susan Pawlowic Good idea but still getting the same results after adding the lot serial and pointing to a blank column
@Brett Zimmerman interesting thought, but there is a warehouse record for the items I am testing, but the items are all average cost so there would not be any records in IM_ItemCost table. I may explore looking for or making an item with FIFO cost and see if that produces any results. but that will have to be tomorrow's task.
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David Overholt
Programmer/Project Manager
DWD Technology Group
Fort Wayne IN
(260) 399-8655
Original Message:
Sent: 12-10-2025 16:44
From: Jeff Schwenk
Subject: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
Which Sage Version?
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Jeff Schwenk
Owner
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
(540) 221-4444
Improving bottom lines for over 25 years!
Original Message:
Sent: 12-10-2025 14:36
From: Susan Pawlowic
Subject: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
I have had success with physical count imports only if I add the Lot/Serial field. It can point to a column with blank values, if your items are not lot/serial valuation. I don't know if this will solve your issue, but you may need this component in your import regardless.
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Susan Pawlowic
Sage 100 Solutions Architect
RKL eSolutions, LLC
spawlowic@rklesolutions.com
(717) 735-9109 Ext. 4352
Original Message:
Sent: 12-10-2025 13:17
From: David Overholt
Subject: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
I did find a KB article that was related to multi-bin basic with this similar behavior, but they only have the 2 add-ons
Operation management
Avalara/Avatax
But you did get my curiosity up so I looked at the Data dictionary for IM_Physical, and it looks the same as my version 2022 (at least the keys are the same).
I did notice something new the time and date updated on the record is not changing, so it I not just that field not getting updated, the record is not being written at all!
Year-end is around the corner. Be sure to attend our Sage 100 Year-End Tips and Tricks Webcast: View the details
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David Overholt
DWD Technology Group, Inc.
9921 Dupont Circle Drive West, Suite 300 | Fort Wayne, IN 46825
260.423.2414 main
260.399.8655 Direct
800.232.8913 toll free
sagesupport@dwdtechgroup.com
www.dwdtechgroup.com

Original Message:
Sent: 12/10/2025 12:50:00 PM
From: Kevin Moyes
Subject: RE: Inventory physical count VI import will not update Quantity Counted if the item is frozen with on-hand qty of zero
Any enhancements? I think multi-bin might change the physical count object behavior, adding bin to the primary key.
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Kevin Moyes
Technical Systems Analyst
Munjal White Consulting Co.
Toronto ON