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Robert Wood

Robert Wood10-10-2018 09:16

Wayne Schulz

Wayne Schulz11-08-2018 14:33

Wayne Schulz

Wayne Schulz11-08-2018 14:58

  • 1.  [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-09-2018 12:16
    [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an update on our upcoming Sage CRM conference as food for thought for 90 Minds or individual practices. This is not a pitch - we have sold out of space - so hopefully the powers that be won't delete this so others can learn from our experiences. This was our first pass at putting together a technical conference. We are still working out kinks on putting everything together and it's been a HUGE investment. I want to make that clear before I go on to the next bit. Sorting out everything took much longer than anticipated and we are still finalizing presentations. Our goal going into this was to solve a common problem that we see with CRM over and over: customers don't know what they don't know so most of them end up skimming the surface of using the product which puts them at greater risk of ceasing usage. Unlike ERP / accounting, our CRM clients can fall back into the safe comfort of using email and spreadsheets to do their jobs if they feel like CRM is a waste of time. We are putting a few things out there to help give customers multiple paths to learning what CRM can do for them and how it can help them reach their goal. This is being done as part of our mission: help small and medium-sized businesses succeed through the use of CRM. Of course, there is a selfish component of helping customers succeed and we hope that success will breed longer-term customers who tap us on the shoulder to help them with additional needs as they grow and evolve. We agonized over the sessions. We still are frankly. We wanted a blend of ""Why"" and ""How"" to help paint the picture of WHY customers should use certain parts of CRM and some specifics on HOW they will accomplish it. We have tried to create sessions around use cases - common scenarios and ""day in the life"" stories that act as a wrapper for us to talk about best practices, tips, and tricks. I'm mostly happy with our sessions titles - the meat of the sessions is still being refined. The final test will be if customers find the value. It's tough though as we have a good smattering of attendees with different usage patterns and at different spots in their journey - some are seasoned pros, some are just starting out, some are technical folks, some are management folks. In the end, we have put together the best agenda we could in the pursuit of delivering strong valuable content and we hope that - even if customers don't see value in EVERY session - customers should get value from the overall conference. As this was our first year, we weren't sure what to expect or how to draw people to the conference so we were conservative and got a room for 28 people. We filled five spots in the first two weeks without any big push. I simply mentioned it to a customer or two and they said ""sign us up"" before I even had all the details. Thanks to @WayneSchulz - I worked to add more details around hotel and sessions as quickly as we could so the conference had more substance and value was more apparent. We added a video and a web page to send to people and I sent it out to a few more customers - some of those signed up as well. I reached out to several partners - some through a group message in here but many more via direct emails and calls. My thinking was we were putting on a lot of effort and it would be nice to spread the end result - help other partners inform their clients about the power of CRM. I figured most ERP partners don't dive deep on CRM so this would be a great opportunity to help them re-engage with their customers. A few partners connected and dove in. Huge thanks to the team of Eide Bailly - they stepped up and did several out reaches and they have four attendees coming plus @SamanthaKnigge will be there too! I think if we do this again, I will try to spread the message further and hopefully fellow partners will feel comfortable sending their customers. Of course, the true test will be what happens with the customers that attend this year. Will they be happier with their investment? Will they be stronger in their adoption? Will they reach their goals? Will they purchase more consulting services and products? I hope so. We'll see. One thing that I am convinced of is that my sheer laziness stopped us from filling a room twice the size. I am sorry to say I didn't push hard on the conference. I would say only 60% of our customers even got a single message about it and most of those were notified in the last two weeks with only six weeks to go with the conference. I'm only being half-deprecating when I speak of my laziness - I'm juggling a lot over here these days and it's hard to always being doing the right things at the right time. The big reason my calls were pushed off to current clients is that I haven't always done the best job staying in touch with some customers so there was a (found to be valid) concern of what I would hear. My primary account manager who was responsible for managing customers post-implementation recently left / was asked to leave so the conference acted as a great coalescing reason to reach out and reconnect. The conversations were a mixture of awesome (customers who are hungry to do more with CRM and us) to horrific (your guy sucked, you guys suck, I hate you). Luckily more of them were positive and in the middle so I took my lumps, listened, and absorbed so we can improve for the future. As part of the 90 Minds Admin Group, I advocated for a 90 Minds Customer Conference. A lot of the member firms are too small or too busy or too whatever to do what I've done here and put on their own conference. I always felt we could easily have a customer conference and get 100 - 200 customer attendees easily to the inaugural event and grow from there. This would be with purchased tickets to ensure commitment and say something of the value expectation. There was a lot of negative pushback around this idea - mostly fears and uncertainty - but I hope that my modest push here opens up the discussion around this. Customers are hungry for roll up the sleeves training on add-ons, core product, advanced features, etc. Sage isn't doing it. In my opinion, there is opportunity here for 90 Minds to step up for the benefit of the customers and the member firms. One of my goals in putting this together was to hit the number of attendees that we had in the first 90 Minds meetings. I half-assed the marketing and hit our goals. I have full faith the 90 Minds member firms could quarter-ass it and get great results as a collective. Here are the benefits to me - and I think they would be similar to 90 Minds as a whole and individual firms - of doing the conference: 1. Excuse to call on all customers - even lapsed. 2. Pushed us to thinking of customer outcomes for sessions. 3. Helped us create additional packaged services around the sessions for customers who want to go deeper. 4. Helped us clean up our database (kind of attached to #1). 5. Helped us create content that we will trickle out on our website and youtube channel. LMK if there are any questions. The process has been ugly so I'm happy to share what I've learned with full transparency so others can learn and improve upon what I did. I'm also taking suggestions for next year. Thanks for reading. @SageCRM


  • 2.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-09-2018 12:26
    Thanks for the write-up, Peter. I would definitely attend a follow-up session at Meeting of the Minds on the pros/cons/benefits of doing your own conference. Or can I hire you to take care of it for me :)


  • 3.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-09-2018 13:10
    @SteveIwanowski I can guarantee you I am not the guy you want to manage and run your conference. :D


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    Posted 10-09-2018 13:13
    I think this is a really great idea! EB does a couple of local/small meetings/year for our Sage 100 users to just inform them of new products, changes coming down the pipe, etc. It is always incredibly well received & I think something like this would be so much better. I know a ton of our 100 clients that would love to send some of their people!


  • 5.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-09-2018 13:19
    I always felt that way too @SamanthaKnigge - plus the vendor members would have a TON of value to get customers in a room.


  • 6.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 06:15
    TL;DR: the Sage CRM customer conference filled to capacity; lots of lessons learned, perhaps it is time to rethink a customer conference sponsored by 90 Minds.


  • 7.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 06:55
    How many partners vs. customers will be there, @PeterWolf?


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    Posted 10-10-2018 07:19
    26 customer attendees, 2 partner attendees


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    Posted 10-10-2018 08:22
    A content heavy conference will have no trouble selling out, especially since Sage continues to produce the far less practical visioning sessions at theirs. But, as Peter has discovered, this takes an incredible amount of energy and time to pull off. You guys that organize Meeting of the Minds know that.


  • 10.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 08:35
    @PeterWolf that's pretty respectable for a first year event.


  • 11.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 09:01
    Thanks @RobertWood - I have to admit that my driving goal was to hit / exceed the initial MotM meetings in the DSD office. It was a dumb little competition I was running in the back of my head with myself. :D


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    Posted 10-10-2018 09:05
    I agree with @RobertWood What did we have at the inaugural MOTM - 22? Keep it up Peter and you will be filling McCormack Place in no time and Ditka will be lead off at the main event. Just leave the kilt at home please.


  • 13.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 09:16
    I think it was 18 even, @JeffSchwenk.


  • 14.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 09:50
    Well, there you go. We could have used two Uber's to go to The Strip Club....


  • 15.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 14:24
    I remember once or twice herding everyone into a line and walking to a restaurant across the street for lunch. Amazingly I think we got in and out within an hour.


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    Posted 10-10-2018 14:29
    Remember going out for dinner on Valentine's Day? We thought we would just stroll in ... 90 minutes later, we did it ... LOL


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    Posted 10-10-2018 14:52
    Ha. I have that photo somewhere. Remarkable that it didn't take much much longer to eat


  • 18.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 14:56
    It wasn't perfect but everyone seemed to have a good time and kept coming back :)


  • 19.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-10-2018 16:43
    Wasn't perfect?? Damn close. Good enough for government work. Party at your house was the best!


  • 20.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 10-15-2018 11:07
    For whatever massochistic reasons, I had my coordinator check with the hotel and we got a bigger room on Friday so now we are at 31 attendees. :) Frankly at this point, the more the merrier but my expectations are set low to pick up last minute folks because ... it is so last minute - 3 weeks to go! I'll let you all know how the final numbers roll out.


  • 21.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 11-07-2018 14:23
    Wishing you a successful conference @PeterWolf!!


  • 22.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 11-07-2018 19:40
    Thanks @ThereseLogeais! John made it safe and sound. We ended up at 48 attendees (7 are our team). Pretty enthused by the turn-out and huge thanks to our friends at Eide Bailly who brought in four customers - that's just great. All the partners attending signed a ""no poaching"" agreement to make sure there is no risk to their business from each other or our team. Now to the business of sharing the info. It's already going great - I overheard several awesome convo's among customers at the meet and greet about how they are using the software and sharing best practices. My twelve year old asked me the other day if I was going to have a dedicated timeslot for customers to mingle during the last day after they have heard from us. He felt they would want to have time to share ideas after they heard from us when it was fresh in their minds. Damn ... next year, he's planning this thing. :D


  • 23.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 11-08-2018 06:41
    @MoiraGoggin - recruitment opportunity here...


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    Posted 11-08-2018 14:33
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  • 25.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 11-08-2018 14:52
    Wait, is that some sort of suit? Where's the flannel gear?


  • 26.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 11-08-2018 14:58
    Same question


  • 27.  RE: [INFORMATION ONLY] I wanted to give everyone an

    Posted 11-09-2018 12:23
    Friday Flannel day. I'm sure someone has a picture from today. :) We just wrapped up. Reviewing the initial surveys and it sounds like we did a pretty good job. Internally, our highest praise is NTS - Not Too Shitty - and it seems that this qualified. On a scale of 1 to 10, early responses (about 20 folks) average right between 8 - 8.5 for satisfaction with the conference. And same for ""Will you return next year?"" Once I have final numbers, I am happy to share if people are interested? (maybe even if you aren't. ;))