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I think we have what we need from the pre-conference poll. and can close it. From the poll I think the beginning scripting is definitely the clear class winner. I would like to move forward with coordinating all the logistics for the 2 day class. This also includes working out the details Alnoor and his needs and the hotel. @ThereseLogeais regarding the rest of the MOTM website on Eventbrite. Do you have time tomorrow to discuss it. I want to make sure we have everything we need to make it live by Monday. In order for this to occur we need the site to be ready for us to look by the weekend.

Why are we limiting it to only one class? SI is getting some action if you count the comments from people who want to send non SC participants. In the e-mail sent yesterday, we said the poll was going to stay open a few more days. What will it hurt to run it through the end of the week? We want to offer some opportunity and variety.

I thought we already discussed that we only wanted 1 class. The other classes will likely need to be done via session at MOTM

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We did vote before I went on the cruise to only have one session. Was there another vote? Do we need another poll? WTH?

If there is enough interest for a second class (or even a third), what is the harm of having it? I don't recall saying only ONE class. If there is interest for a second one, why not? The ONLY problem that we had with running two was we allowed people to opt out of the second day for SI. Do we not have two classrooms available?

We said we would poll offering other sessions and see if we could get 15 votes. As I see it (reading the comments) we would have 13 for Basic Scripting and 9 for SI. Jim said we had two rooms available so I agree with Jeff.

We voted. It wasn't just said. We held a vote. What is the point of having meetings if the decisions made in meetings aren't upheld. Don't we have enough going on with running one preconference session and running an entire conference? Plus, we had discussed before not having dual sessions because of issues with cannibalization of the other group. I'm tired of attending pointless meetings.

Why do I attend meetings?

Really Robert? Are there minutes reflecting that vote? This is all I see. https://docs.google.com/a/community.90minds.com/document/d/1pspqPxQi1DkawPX9feWERtduZnnLh-sGAq6LoXMiAjE/edit

Really. I was sitting in my truck waiting to pickup my kids so I could leave town. I wasn't paying attention to the minutes. We do a crappy job of keeping up with minutes too. We need to fix that.

And @ThereseLogeais you're secretary. You're the one responsible for the meeting minutes.

I believe my title is Education.

Again, what is the HARM for having two (or more meeting)? What is the purpose of the group if not to offer educational benefits. We have over 160 members. I think it is safe to say that everyone is not a scripter. We are offering people an option for variety. If we don't get 15, we don't hold the session. Right now, we don't have 15 for anything. I personally don't remember the vote for ONE session.

@ThereseLogeais go read the minutes of the February meeting. I believe it's on the last page. Your exec board position is secretary. Education is a job you're doing.

@JeffSchwenk my frustration has nothing to do with how many sessions we run. It's about getting tired of going round and round on the same topics over and over again.

@ThereseLogeais I'm mistaken it's at the bottom of the first page.

As I recall at last Thursday's meeting, the consensus of the group was to run a final survey for sessions. Any session that garnered 15 votes would be offered. As it stands now, it looks like the two day scripting will top the target and SI could very well do so also. It would be a good idea to create the Eventbrite so that it included these two offerings. Who knows, CRM might be the dark horse with a strong showing. We have a lot of new members they should be giving ample opportunity to attend one of these sessions.

I found the minutes from the October 17th meeting and the vote I'm remembering isn't there so I have to move on. We've talked about not doing multiple session. Yada yada! I can't find the minutes to last Thursday's meeting and I don't remember that exactly the same way you do, Jeff.

And then there is this thread from a couple weeks back. https://90minds-com.socialcast.com/messages/22125897?ref=group There is interest in doing multiple sessions. You have to give the seed time to germinate.

I see the logic behind leaving a poll running until it gives you the results you want.

Then shut it down now and we won't have any classes so you can have the results YOU want! That is a great value for the group.

That's not the point at all. We need to pick a date to pull the plug instead of ambiguously leaving it open for a few more days. Where did 15 attendees come from as a required critical mass?

Well, if you would have attended last week's meeting, you would not be asking this question.

I don't think that was discussed at last week's meeting. I believe it was discussed at the October 31st meeting that was called by Wayne as a show up if you can meeting at a time I unfortunately already had a client meeting scheduled. I was at last week's meeting.

I apologize for not being a better secretary and recording meeting minutes but a second poll WAS discussed and approved at the 10/31 meeting with a 15 vote minimum to proceed as a Go. Since Education is my area, I propose we bring the poll to the top saying it will be pulled end of day tomorrow and we make a decision then. All those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. (Nay signifying you only want Basic Scripting.) Please be civil in your responses (you know who you are...)

I'll take @RobertWood 's Like as an Aye. @WayneSchulz @JimWoodhead @JeffSchwenk @PeterWolf ?

My like is a like for the idea of your message. I'm thinking about it still.

Please don't make it the end of day tomorrow before deciding.....

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Yes to closing the poll at end of business day tomorrow 11/12, Yes to running one session provided it gathers 15 or more votes (not combined votes), No to running multiple sessions regardless of the # of votes because clicking a button on Socialcast does not commit anyone to actually cut a check and attend -- my takeaway from Vegas is that offering multiple sessions (and this is in my view reflected in the comments on the survey) causes people people to waver on which session to actually attend. I am disappointed that before creating this fiasco that we did not see any budget on this to verify that the suggested fees were appropriate. I am disappointed that despite requests the admin group was disinterested in setting any type of schedule for when tasks would be performed and by who (whom?). To say that I'm disenchanted with this admin group would be the understatement of 2014.

My votes mirror Wayne's.

I'm sticking with Nay.

My vote is close the poll and yes to only 1 class. I think we will likely sellout the Beginning scripting class base on the votes and the comments. I would like to add when I reserved the hotel that I only guaranteed 10 rooms on Wed night . Although I am sure we can get a few more I am not confident we can get 20 more rooms. (Just a comment) So I guess mine is a NAY vote.

In typical style, my vote is late.. On purpose this time. And it is MEH! The tribe has spoken, the railroad train has left the station. Que Sera, Sera. Time to move on! I've attached the comparative financials for the group. The current year data is actually as of today, last year's data is for the full year. We will spend $4,000 next month for wages and maybe get a Socialcast renewal invoice for an unknown amount. Peter has done a bang-up job with vendor member renewals and we should be receiving at least $28,500 (2,850 for Peter) before the end of the year and probably much more. Add the cash flows until the end of the year and we will be sitting on at least $115K. Wow, that is an incredible number! And it begs the question, WHERE are we spending it??? We have created a tremendous franchise and have done very well in moving it to the future. Membership is doing well, the vendor membership initiative is getting stronger, we held two VERY successful meetings (both in attendance and financially) this year and we are on track for the 4th annual MOTM in February. Wow! However, we come up short in offering educational sessions to the membership for fear that we might lose money. As a reminder, we will have over $115K in the bank at year end. Isn't it supposed to be spent on membership activities? For the 2013 value pricing session, we lost about $3K, for MOTM 2014 we lost $8K (almost entirely due to admin group travel expenses), Vegas 2014 the loss was $4K (all due to the Monday night social party). And we have $115K in the bank.. For such a visionary group, it is incredible how much naysaying there is. I was there for the 2011 DC group meeting when the idea for MOTM 2012 was initially proposed and discussed. They said it couldn't be done. I pushed for the DC Value Pricing session. They said it couldn't be done. Great turn out, smashing success! As I recall, the initial vote for Vegas 2014 was a NO! It wasn't until there was an inquiry from the MEMBERSHIP, that plans began for TWO sessions. Again the naysayers said it couldn't be done, again they were proved wrong. Now we have the issue with MOTM 2015 and three wrongs now make a right! The tribe has spoken, there will not be a second educational session. For whatever reason. It is too hard, it is too confusing, it will dilute Alnoor's session, we don't have enough rooms, we will LOSE money, Eric was a poor presenter, there is no plan, no budget, yada, yada, yada.. Unfortunately, I couldn't provide the financials in a prettier format because I STILL don't do SI very well. I am a double loser now. But we DO have 115K in the bank WHERE does the MEMBERSHIP see the benefit of 115K??? For such a visionary group, we certainly ARE risk adverse on certain issues. Where are the Vegas odds makers now?? On a more personal note, this thread is terribly ugly. Though I am getting used to the angry voices, it affects me personally. For whatever reason, Robert is the most vocal. Is it my whiney voice, is it that I have a different point of view, is it my dry (edgy?) sense of humor, is it my passion to serve the membership? I welcome the chance to take it offline, clear the air and put our differences behind us so we can move the group forward. In our rush to duke it out in the mud, somehow Therese was caught in the cross fire and personally attacked viciously, mean spiritedly and totally uncalled for. Robert, you OWE her an apology!!!!!! It is the right thing to do. Enough said on this topic for today. I have day job to go to. I just hope we can spend the gob$ of money in a way that benefits the membership.

@ThereseLogeais did I miss anything in my private apology to you? Should I make that apology public?

Oh, a public whipping and a private apology..... That is big of you,.

Jeff, are we trying to get things back under control or stir them up more.

You tell me? I was always taught to apologize in public if I screwed up in public. Are things different in the south? Am I the only one to not know that you apologized PRIVATELY? And BTW, I haven't been able to figure out what YOU are trying to do.....

I am good with your apology @RobertWood - thank you!

You let him off too lightly!!!!!

OK enough already. can we move on!!

TO?

This thread is DONE!

Stick a fork in it!! The turkey that is. Not you Jim...

Jeff, I and everyone else already know I was an asshole to Therese. If you would like to continue rubbing it in my face, could we please take this private? I didn't post it publicly because that felt insincere at the moment. I was always taught a public apology was for the apologist to show how big they were in public and a private apology was to let the person wronged know it was you meant it.

Turkey Day is not for another 13 days but I am thankful I've had the opportunity to work with such a diverse, intelligent, admirable group of people. I hope I can be thankful this group is still around going forward. Please don't disappoint me.

If @ThereseLogeais is good, then it is time to move on