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  • 1.  Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-20-2020 19:25
    I'm curious as to who is a recommended provider for hosting Sage 100.  While we have worked with a solution for awhile there has been some issues the past year that is causing pain for clients and us due to the issues they have been experiencing.

    I know there are a number of providers out there but any thoughts or input would be appreciated.

    Thanks!

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    Chris Mengerink
    Director
    DWD Technology Group
    Fort Wayne IN
    260-399-8653
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  • 2.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-20-2020 19:45
    I've worked with several and like GoToMyERP.  They do the installs, have responded swiftly when I need a fix installed, etc, and I don't remember any down time since I've been working with them (which has only been about 6 months, but two other providers have had numerous down times in that same amount of time, so I feel I'm still comparing apples to apples).

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Beth Bowers
    269-445-1625
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  • 3.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 01:55
    Hi Chris,
    We do hosting for Sage 100. I can give you a trial run. Our servers are super fast, 100mb up and down internet speed and uninterupted power and backup. The datacenter that hosts our servers provide 24/7 support for the servers and they are actively managed, so there is never an issue with any hardware. Also, we provide above average capacity in terms of RAM and HDD and our pricing is below the market average.
    Let me know if I can help you with any more questions and if I can give you a trial run. We also have great references from both clients and other resellers using our hosting service.
    Thanks,

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    Robin Saacks
    Timac Business Systems
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  • 4.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 08:30
    We changed our hosting recommendations to I-BN last spring. They'e been excellent in all ways. @Bob Tobey can give you the details and their competitive profile.

    (We had ​been recommending Applianz's AppEazy, and they are still quite good. However, they were acquired last year by a larger hosting firm, and we are a little concerned about their long-term.)

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    Jerry Norman
    President, 90 Minds
    Smartbridge Partners
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 5.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 09:24
    SWK has the Secure Cloud Services business unit with new / updated datacenters that use actual supported server OS for Sage 100 (not MS Azure "Data-center although t that seems to work it's not supported).  I'm told they built this whole infrastructure for Sage 100 hosting in mind.  I have many clients using the solution, might be worth a look for you.

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    Bruce Kern
    SWK Technologies Inc.
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  • 6.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 12:15
    I have recommended I-BN to customers for many years and have been very happy with them. A plus is they have Sage 100 experience and knowledge, so they are able to provide level 1 support in order to determine if it is a hardware/OS issue or should be referred back to us. At one time I had concerns about the time zone difference of 3 hours from Atlanta to the West Coast. This has not been an issue, since they have on-call staff that are responsive.​

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    John Hoyt, Co-Founder
    Next Level Manufacturing Consulting Group
    johnh@nextlevelMCG.com
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  • 7.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 14:56
    I want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences.  More and more clients don't want to have to manage their IT/servers in these smaller companies which obviously lends itself to a cloud solution but often the cloud solution has to many limitations or the expense is to high.  Finding a good hosting solution at least would help put the cloud in Sage100cloud.

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    Chris Mengerink
    Director
    DWD Technology Group
    Fort Wayne IN
    260-399-8653
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  • 8.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 15:33
    Every cloud has downtime, AWS, Azure, Google, Summit, GoToMyERP, Timac Business System and yes, I-BN.  Anyone who tells you different is not being honest with you.  Some downtime is scheduled, some is not.  The reasons are many...you have machines and humans interacting, machines break, software rules change, software version become unsupported, things out of your control happen and there are bad actors out there getting more and more sophisticated and brazen.  From a hosting perspective, what matters is how you communicate with your hosting partners and their clients.  Communicate early, honestly and often.  Fix the problem so it won't happen again or lessen the chance it'll happen again and communicate that.

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    Bob Tobey
    I-Business Network, Cloud Channel Manager
    I-Business Network, LLC
    Marietta GA
    678-627-0646 x231
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  • 9.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 15:46
    This:

    From a hosting perspective, what matters is how you communicate with your hosting partners and their clients.  Communicate early, honestly and often. 

    Is the truth in all areas of service..


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    Chris Mengerink
    Director
    DWD Technology Group
    Fort Wayne IN
    260-399-8653
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  • 10.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 17:59

    Nice catch Chris!  Communicate, communicate, communicate!

     

    Bob Tobey | Channel Manager

    o    678.627.0646 x231   |   f  678.627.0688

    m  770.356.9395____________________

     

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    2617 Sandy Plains Rd., Ste B, Marietta, GA 30066

    www.I-BN.com

    Powerful Business Technology Made Simple

     

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    ------Original Message------

    This:

    From a hosting perspective, what matters is how you communicate with your hosting partners and their clients.  Communicate early, honestly and often. 

    Is the truth in all areas of service..


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    Chris Mengerink
    Director
    DWD Technology Group
    Fort Wayne IN
    260-399-8653
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  • 11.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-21-2020 19:43
    Yes, agreed, everyone has downtime to do routine maintenance, and communicating that time-frame is key. Multiple reminders and doing the maintenance off-peak times such as mid-night, early mornings or weekends is a good and convenient practice to minimize disruptions. In this way, users will rarely, and likely never, be affected by maintenance.
    But over an above this, with modern monitoring software, you can detect hardware failures coming on before they happen, such as a hard-drive starting to perform poorly, and if identified you can swap out a hard drive on a raid system without any downtime or disruption. Also with Virtual Machines being mirrored, you can restore a VM image within minutes.

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    Robin Saacks
    Timac Business Systems
    Los Angeles, CA
    (310) 571-1200 x21
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  • 12.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-22-2020 13:38

    We've never had any unplanned or unannounced outages since the beginning.

    George actually fixes Microsoft's mistakes when they push out updates that break things

    https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/f3e9852b-393c-4aa0-9d2f-961a82cfc603/remoteapp-after-windows-10-update-1803-are-slow-and-right-mouse-button-is-not-responding-it-reacts?forum=winserverTS

    Sage 100 as low as $39/month/user
    https://www.gotomyerp.com/



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    Robert Eppele
    gotomyerp, llc
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  • 13.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 07:11
    It is always an interesting discussion when the subject of downtime is raised. People host to take a complex and often scary competency out of their hands to a trusted advisor.

    If the application engine service stops and people cannot login, is the hosting service down? We have had customers call us down when their cable company was down. What about maintenance windows? Is that downtime? For a while we had the philosophy of if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, but in today’s security environment you must continuously patch and reboot. Is that downtime?

    In general, when looking at uptime we originally thought, if system availability issues could have been controlled it should count as downtime. We had zero controllable downtime for our first 12 years when our data center had a 4 second power blip. All servers were up and running within 1 hour after most restarted, it had to be restarted due to order of reboot. However, this changed our view of what is downtime. It was not controllable by us, but what does that mean to the customer?

    Now we have two thoughts on downtime.
    1) the most important measure of downtime is customer perception. The old adage, “the customer is always right” is not just for retail.
    2) what constitutes as downtime for service credits. This is a contractual legal definition and even then, we paid service credits for an excluded item, cyber attack.

    Downtime is like ROR changes. It happens and is part of the business model. You want to minimize it to the greatest extent possible regardless of fault, and how you deal with it depends upon your corporate culture. If you are becoming the new ROR do you call the existing partner of record? If a customer is leaving you, do you help the new partner serve the customer? When a hosting customer is down, regardless of fault, how does it react?

    Just like when a customer whose software is down wants to know when it will be up before you triage the issue, hosting companies response time will vary depending up on the nature of the root cause, regardless of how much they care and sometimes even their competency. Although you can’t give them an answer to the only thing they want to know, I believe you have to acknowledge their pain and communicate with respect.

    After 20 years, I personally have evolved my approach to business to be squarely focused on the customer, their perspective, and what do we need to do to serve them better.

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    Gary Feldman
    President
    I-Business Network, LLC
    Marietta GA
    6786270646 x224
    http://www.i-bn.com/
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  • 14.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 07:47
    Hosting is one business I would not want to be in. Hats off to those who are.

    My .02 is if this ransomware doesn’t get under control it will spell a sharp sharp decline in hosting interest by larger companies.

    My turn. Your turn. Who’s next for ransomware?



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    Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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  • 15.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 07:56
    If I ever meet a creator of that stuff, it won't be pretty.

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Beth Bowers
    269-445-1625
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  • 16.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 09:53
    Ransomware threats are expanding as this "product category" expands along its bell-cure life cycle.

    So the threat is increasing to smaller companies keeping their networks on-prem or privately hosted. 

    It seems to me that ransomware has effectively increased the overhead costs of maintaining servers, for both individual firms and hosting vendors. My conclusion here is that we had better pray that the hosting centers figure out how to keep those wolves at bay because it will be too expensive for most firms to do it on their own, without benefiting from those shared costs invested by hosting centers.

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    Jerry Norman
    President, 90 Minds
    Smartbridge Partners
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 17.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 10:05
    Is it safer to have your server in house compared to in a shared hosting environment?  I understand a shared hosting environment typically has many advantages such as off-site backup and up-to-date OS patches.  However, a hosting company has a bigger payoff for the bad guy, and may pose a greater risk.  And..... here it comes.

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    Doug Higgs
    Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
    (312) 315-0960
    Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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  • 18.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 10:45

    Gary is right. My main point about the advancing "product lifecycle" of ransomware is that its increasing maturity means the tools to execute an attack get easier to use so that more crooks can use them. They become more sophisticated so they are harder to defend against. Ant they become more automated, so the marginal cost of using them means smaller firms are worth going after. 

    Think of this as sort of the development of wagon trains for people moving West. The only way to defend against the threats in that environment was to move in a group, a defensive "army". Even then, occasionally the enemy got through. Same here. It's too risky to go alone. 



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    Jerry Norman
    President, 90 Minds
    Smartbridge Partners
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 19.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 11:15

    Ransomware attacks are enabled by crypto currencies because it's impossible to trace.  Also, if you're  of a criminal mind, when you attack a large enterprise, the FBI, Homeland Security and every other government agency gets involved.  When you attack a person's business the odds are better of getting paid.  Criminals know there's virtually no expertise to overcome the virus.  And, by now, like any other business, they have KPIs on targets. 

     

    Bob Tobey | Channel Manager

    o    678.627.0646 x231   |   f  678.627.0688

    m  770.356.9395____________________

     

    image001.png@01D0D8E8.C07C5390 

    2617 Sandy Plains Rd., Ste B, Marietta, GA 30066

    www.I-BN.com

    Powerful Business Technology Made Simple

     

    image004.png@01D40FA5.5A10ADD0

     



    ------Original Message------

    Gary is right. My main point about the advancing "product lifecycle" of ransomware is that its increasing maturity means the tools to execute an attack get easier to use so that more crooks can use them. They become more sophisticated so they are harder to defend against. Ant they become more automated, so the marginal cost of using them means smaller firms are worth going after. 

    Think of this as sort of the development of wagon trains for people moving West. The only way to defend against the threats in that environment was to move in a group, a defensive "army". Even then, occasionally the enemy got through. Same here. It's too risky to go alone. 



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    Jerry Norman
    President, 90 Minds
    Smartbridge Partners
    512.419.1444 x112
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  • 20.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 10:19
    Ransomware is a huge issue, but the vulnerabilities are multi-faceted.   We have been running a blog series on Cyber Security and will be pulling all of these thoughts together into a cyber security guide and probably do a webinar series as well.  These issues are equally important for on-premise or hosted customers and their employees to be aware of.

    https://www.i-bn.com/blog/cybersecutiry-tools-for-protecting-your-company
    https://www.i-bn.com/blog/cybersecutiry-guidelines_for_employees
    https://www.i-bn.com/blog/cybersecurity-guidelines-from-the-employee-perspective
    https://www.i-bn.com/blog/cybersecurity-awareness-of-phishing

    The last blog of about Phishing is the most important as a huge number of companies are exposed via phishing attacks.  If Jeff Bezos can be hacked so can you!  Size does increase the risk of being targeted, but size also can allow for increased vigilance and protection.  The ratio of protection to opportunity needs to be on the side of the defender or the target will be breached.



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    Gary Feldman
    President
    I-Business Network, LLC
    Marietta GA
    6786270646 x224
    http://www.i-bn.com/
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  • 21.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 11:33
    If the schedule for MOTM still has room, a discussion on best practices for Sage 100 and Ransomware would be a great idea.

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    Kevin Moyes
    Technical Systems Analyst
    Munjal White Consulting Co.
    Toronto ON
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  • 22.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 13:41
    A great suggestion, at this time, we've scheduled all the sessions for 2020.

    Our session topics come from the results of the event survey, for MOTM.  When you get the survey after the event, please include this session suggestion.  We pick the sessions directly from survey suggestions, please let us what you'd like presented.

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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 23.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 13:57
      |   view attached
    By the way, a reminder to all the hosting providers that posted in this thread.

    Only Affiliates are allowed to advertise.  They pay for that privilege.  This post was for recommend hosting providers that members had worked with, not an invitation to advertise your own services.  I apologize for not catching this when @Robin Saacks made his post, and our (90 Minds Board and myself) not addressing this when that post occurred was on us. 

    Member FAQ and Rules attached as a reminder. 


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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 24.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 14:09
    Apologies. I am reasonably new to 90 Minds, but only just got access to this web portal about a week ago. I will go through the attached document.

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    Robin Saacks
    Timac Business Systems
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  • 25.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-23-2020 17:22
    Thank you @Robin Saacks.


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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 26.  RE: Hosting for Sage 100

    Posted 01-24-2020 12:08

    As Gary points out, phishing continues to be a huge issue.  It can lead to some very scary situations beyond what you likely suspect. 

     

    If you think that 2FA will save us all, you should look at this. https://youtu.be/xaOX8DS-Cto

     

    It's clear that humans make mistakes no matter how diligent they try to be.  With the sheer volume of incidents where credentials are being verified w/ 2FA, it's inevitable that a slip up will occur.

     

    Going off the grid certainly has its appeal.

     

    Jeff Mack

    Integrated Computer Systems

    425-284-5413 direct

    206-948-9423 mobile

    http://www.ics-support.com

    https://www.mtwocloud.com

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-mack-1660906/

     

    ICS MTWO Logo CMYK

     



    ------Original Message------

    Ransomware is a huge issue, but the vulnerabilities are multi-faceted.   We have been running a blog series on Cyber Security and will be pulling all of these thoughts together into a cyber security guide and probably do a webinar series as well.  These issues are equally important for on-premise or hosted customers and their employees to be aware of.

    https://www.i-bn.com/blog/cybersecutiry-tools-for-protecting-your-company
    https://www.i-bn.com/blog/cybersecutiry-guidelines_for_employees
    https://www.i-bn.com/blog/cybersecurity-guidelines-from-the-employee-perspective
    https://www.i-bn.com/blog/cybersecurity-awareness-of-phishing

    The last blog of about Phishing is the most important as a huge number of companies are exposed via phishing attacks.  If Jeff Bezos can be hacked so can you!  Size does increase the risk of being targeted, but size also can allow for increased vigilance and protection.  The ratio of protection to opportunity needs to be on the side of the defender or the target will be breached.



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    Gary Feldman
    President
    I-Business Network, LLC
    Marietta GA
    6786270646 x224
    http://www.i-bn.com/
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