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Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

Peter Wolf

Peter Wolf06-12-2012 11:47

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-12-2012 11:48

Peter Wolf

Peter Wolf06-12-2012 11:50

Peter Wolf

Peter Wolf06-12-2012 11:51

Brian Buck

Brian Buck06-12-2012 11:52

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 09:33

Moira Goggin

Moira Goggin06-13-2012 09:40

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 09:44

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 09:56

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk06-13-2012 10:05

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk06-13-2012 10:13

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk06-13-2012 10:14

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:14

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:15

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:17

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:20

Moira Goggin

Moira Goggin06-13-2012 10:21

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:23

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:23

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk06-13-2012 10:28

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:30

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:30

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk06-13-2012 10:31

Jeff Schwenk

Jeff Schwenk06-13-2012 10:33

Moira Goggin

Moira Goggin06-13-2012 10:36

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:36

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:36

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:38

Robert Wood

Robert Wood06-13-2012 10:47

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 10:48

Diane Ruth

Diane Ruth06-13-2012 10:48

Phil McIntosh

Phil McIntosh06-13-2012 10:50

Therese Logeais

Therese Logeais06-13-2012 11:05

Jerry Norman

Jerry Norman06-13-2012 21:11

  • 1.  Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-08-2012 04:56
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    Here's a timely announcement of an effective promotion: double tier available for only two weeks but not announced until the end of the first week. Further evidence current management has no clue how the channel operates...


  • 2.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-08-2012 06:58
    I have a crazy idea. How about make great products and great prices? I kid, I kid.


  • 3.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-08-2012 07:23
    Too Funny!!!!!!! But to paraphrase Erika, some things are just TOO hard to do!!!!


  • 4.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:43
    I will reserve repeating the words I used when I received this wonderful double tier promotion announcement....but the abbreviation is AYFKM?


  • 5.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:47
    AYFKM - Aw yeah, funny kid magicians?


  • 6.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:48
    Or As you fall, kick me?


  • 7.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:50
    Therese...the YOU and the ME are correct...keep guessing.


  • 8.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:50
    All you folks keep moving...


  • 9.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:50
    Wait ... I got it ... Are you fucking kidding me?


  • 10.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:51
    (can we say that on this forum?)


  • 11.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:52
    You got it Peter...WINNER!


  • 12.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-12-2012 11:56
    Well, Sage IS falling and we ARE getting kicked/f'd.


  • 13.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:28
    Well it appears that it will only be listen and don't speak as the audio is being streamed over the video link.


  • 14.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:33
    Could the music be any more annoying?


  • 15.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:36
    Ahhhhhhhhh. I am now submissive and complacent. I will do your bidding now.......


  • 16.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:37
    Does he always studder? Or does he not have a clear script to read from?


  • 17.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:37
    He's tripping over his words Jeff, not studdering....


  • 18.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:38
    OMG - that is the most annoying slide on Business Priorities...kindergarten crayons...


  • 19.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:39
    done by the same group that developed animated Mary??


  • 20.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:40
    And they only have 4 colors to work with


  • 21.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:41
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    Did they display their marketing plan in error?


  • 22.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:43
    They don't think it's an error - they called it a ""word picture"" - picture your own gesture in response


  • 23.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:43
    They actually pay this guy money?????? Where do I send my qualifications........


  • 24.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:44
    Dull Doug....drones on, and on, and on, and on. and on......


  • 25.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:44
    Are employees 'causal' or 'casual' users?


  • 26.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:45
    They are the cause of our problems...........


  • 27.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:46
    These are people that had to do a survey to find out that people want their companies to sell more and provide better customer service, and software that works on their new toys...


  • 28.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:48
    Awe your Sage marketing dollars at work...good point @PhilMcIntosh


  • 29.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:50
    I must have unusual clients as less than 1% of my base is looking for these services.


  • 30.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:53
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    I can't get over these slides...as it was once said if you can't dazzle them with brillanace then baffle them with bs...


  • 31.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:54
    Hey, they only had a couple of days to through something at the wall....................


  • 32.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:54
    Better a couple of days than a couple of weeks according to Joe..


  • 33.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:55
    If you are going to fail, you should fail quickly..and since Atlas is part of the Cloud Foundation, it will fail...


  • 34.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:56
    Scary that Atlas is supposed to be the interface between Buy and Use...


  • 35.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 09:56
    what did he say, a matter of hours vs. days???


  • 36.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:00
    Where did they get this data? My clients are outside of these revenue figures...outside in a good way.


  • 37.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:05
    Sell, sell, sell.......................


  • 38.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:06
    Notice @JeffSchwenk that we are suddenly being given a tool for demos - process flows - do I hear them acknowledging that ""we"" sell software?


  • 39.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:07
    C'mon @MoiraGoggin - don't be silly! that's for their in-house sales 'direct' team.


  • 40.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:08
    Sage intelligence looks nice. What are they doing to make it user friendly?


  • 41.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:09
    I get it now...... They are just reviewing the PDF sent out yesterday. I guess I can't read....


  • 42.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:10
    @ThereseLogeais - oh, gosh how could I miss that, still working on one cup of coffee here...how silly of me, you're right that's for the ""inside"" sales team


  • 43.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:10
    They're on pg 23 of 45 and have 20 minutes left....


  • 44.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:11
    And they just started speeding through Sage 300 slides...


  • 45.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:12
    Interesting on the color shading by company. Why couldn't they do that in MAS instead of changing the entire (well mostly) panel?


  • 46.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:13
    We were just talking about that this morning, how hideous it can look.


  • 47.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:13
    isn't there a new version of Crystal?


  • 48.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:14
    Light Pastel is the way to go.........


  • 49.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:14
    Isn't Crystal 2011 different??


  • 50.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:15
    Oh, i guess so. I was thinking Crystal 11....................


  • 51.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:15
    Or is 2011 just another way of saying XI?


  • 52.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:15
    Yes, and Crystal 2011 was released in 2011 - and will be available to Sage products in 2013...update to date as usual.


  • 53.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:17
    X3 slide has plans through 2016, but Sage 100, 300 and 500 seem to stop at 2013?


  • 54.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:17
    Yep, 2013 is all there is....


  • 55.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:18
    Sage 100 clients change their priorities more frequently. Hard to determine what they want more then 12 months out........


  • 56.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:20
    Long pause to that question.... ""Whaaa???


  • 57.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:21
    Caught that too...


  • 58.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:23
    Let's see if they answer this question. What is the priority for implementing suggestions for product improvement from the Idea Website? There are nearly 1300 suggestions and ONLY 46 have or will be implemented. What is being offered for long time users that would like the process/product improved.


  • 59.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:23
    Is the QA panel blocking the slides for anyone else?


  • 60.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:23
    YES it is !!


  • 61.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:23
    I clicked on Full Screen


  • 62.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:24
    It seems to auto size. Mine is back to the left.


  • 63.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:25
    For existing clients, the question should be - How much would you be willing to spend on this enhancement.............


  • 64.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:25
    This mobile stuff...so secure, great way to keep that confidential data safe, put it on a mobile device....


  • 65.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:27
    That's becuz the core MM CEO is more forward thinking and doesn't care about security according to the first few slides.That's the slower finance/budget/process person's priority.


  • 66.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:28
    Weak response to the Idea question.


  • 67.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:29
    Is it just the three of us wasting our time on the webinar?


  • 68.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:30
    Lol! looks like...


  • 69.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:30
    but think how much more educated we are now


  • 70.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:31
    Fool me once................


  • 71.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:33
    Sizzle with minimal substance.


  • 72.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:34
    This was a sales tool to sell us on Sage's investment in the product. Are you buying it?


  • 73.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:34
    There are probably more on the webinar, but they fell asleep....


  • 74.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:36
    @ThereseLogeais - no


  • 75.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:36
    'annual development project'?


  • 76.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:36
    me either...


  • 77.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:38
    I love the long pauses...


  • 78.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:39
    Doug said ""...there's a lot of excitement during these sales presentations..."" oh my, the enthusiasm in his voice is just so...yawn.


  • 79.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:40
    I heard that too and thought, ""Is he referring to this presentation???


  • 80.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:41
    We're are open and available to help out at anytime"" - quote from Joe Langner....


  • 81.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:41
    This is like Mystery Science Theater 3000...


  • 82.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:45
    I find the presentations are getting worse each time. I can't imagine what Summit is going to be like.


  • 83.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:46
    Somebody woke up Monday morning and realized the partners were freaking out because they hadn't gone over the road map in a while, created the Power Point Monday night so they could send an email out yesterday.


  • 84.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:46
    I'd say @WayneSchulz's Hallway 101 session will be the most interesting....


  • 85.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:47
    And I wish I were kidding.


  • 86.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:47
    I liked the whole, we forgot to put our email addresses on the slides, but you can figure them out anyway bit.


  • 87.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:48
    But they're available anytime.


  • 88.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:48
    @Theresa I think you are right....


  • 89.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:49
    If weren't already disillusioned, I would be now.


  • 90.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:50
    anytime""...is that like the ""any"" key?


  • 91.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 10:57
    I missed the presentation (in flight to Vegas, baby!!!), but thanks to the comments here, I got the gist: ""Sage sucks"" and ""Doug has all the excitement of watching paint peel"" and ""Sage management has no idea what they actually sell and what customers actually buy"".. Did I miss anything?


  • 92.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 11:05
    Nope, enjoy Vegas @PeterWolf!


  • 93.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 11:36
    I'm actually a little more positive than the early reviewers here. 1) I think they were prepping presentations for Summit. Customers, esp. They woke up last week to the fact that they wanted to road test it a bit 1st, and the 3 players they wanted to present weren't going to be all available in the near future. That said, the ""uh oh' timing is probably Langner. The way he is. We've seen him shoot from the hip before, and then back off. 2) This is aimed at customers and industry analysts. Not Partners. Think of this as top level of their thinking ""What do we want Summit Customer attendees to walk away with, to share with their upper management?"" From that perspective, I think it is strong. 3) No surprises technology-wise. - No web browser interface for Sage 100. But many customer-facing functions will be browser-enabled. - Sage 500 is not a priority; it will join PFW soon. - We will see lots more talk about connected services. Whether they can actually execute on the details of the related customer service (see recent disatisfaction with $$ on SPS) was not addressed (this was, after all a technology session). - The only mentions of SaaS were essentially, ""the mkt research shows it's not a no-brainer yet."" Their connected services is how they will ""leapfrog"" the competition. 4) I actually thought the Mkt Res was solid. Dennis Frahman does very solid research projects. So, if you disagree with what they said today, it is worth starting from the assumption, ""it's not wrong."" From figure out why you might be seeing things differently. I, for one, think there is a huge difference between what one hears from prospects in a research scenario, and current Sage customers. also between President/Owner and CFO/Ops in existing companies. I think that significant buying decisions will be delayed over the next 2 yrs, until Europe resolves. The significant focus Sage is putting on helping customers with revenue enhancements is smart. Now, whether they can execute and deliver on that promise is something else. But the focus area is correct.


  • 94.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 12:14
    Jerry, good analysis. Just depends on whether your deck chair is facing forward on the cruise ship or facing backward. The analysis is entirely for new sales, not existing ones. They did dangle some new features for the installed base, but by and large, it was to show some sizzle for the prospects.


  • 95.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 12:34
    Maybe, Jeff. I think you might be surprised by how much interest your current customers show in the promised of the CRM integration and the connected services. Notice, I said ""promise."" I think it remains to be seen whether Sage adequately delivers on their promise, or it's only a Sage 50 half-baked offering.


  • 96.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 13:31
    Good summary everyone - I listened to 1/2 of it while doing an upgrade (lunch time) at a customer site. What stuck with me is they say they're looking for suggestions - yet unless I overlooked something the road map is done. What suggestions? Use a lighter green on the slide deck? I agree with whomever (or is it whoever) suggested that this was a dry run for Summit presentations. Is it also a mark of weakness when everything you do has to be backed up by surveys and not results?


  • 97.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 14:06
    Both your questions are about mkt research. Market research done right can give a lot broad guidance about customer attitudes. I have an MBA, and my wife was a heavy duty market researcher; with that background, I was impressed with Frahman's explanations of the details of how they'd done the research underpinning his decisions about dealing with branding. I think he's a savvy, serious user of research. So, I hope he was involved with the round they referenced today. The way they laid out the options for various company roles is great (the bands with several columns, and various crayon checkmarks). I got confused (probably on purpose) in the presentation about how when they were talking to customers vs. prospects, but they surely have those cross-tabbed. The ""surveys vs. results"" is, I think, critical. For the moment, assume that Houllion & Co. are only idiots when it comes to channel issues. So, an exec coming into a foundering operation with limited $$$ for R&D is going to do 2 things. 1) buy some time by increasing Gross Profit on existing operations. 2) figure out how to focus his R&D on the efforts most likely to pay off in medium term. To do (2) you must do some mkt research. If I were in his shoes, I would want some explicit, outside Reality Checks on my product management team because they are quite likely part of The Problem. So I do research. This primary research they quote was likely primed by secondary research from the AMR's, Aberdeens, etc. Anyway, I don't think it's a weakness; I think it's pretty smart. They're still stuck with old technology, and with Corp who ain't going to front big $$ to change that. From a product perspective, I don't thing Pascal has any better option. I think we're going to hear A LOT of messaging about remote sales-related connected services and integrated CRM. A lot about BI. They'll be silent on browser-ERP and SaaS, except to make sound like there's some reason for prospects to pick up the phone.


  • 98.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 15:15
    @JerryNorman - Actually, I have (along with @PeterWolf) done numerous presentations to qualified clients on CRM. Only one has committed. One decided it would be easier to update his Clientele system and then modify the hell out of it (hardware/programming client), one thought that Salesforce would be cheaper (after 15 months Sage CRM was more cost effective) and couldn't wait for the v4.5 migration (still waiting for the go ahead after presenting the upgrade proposal three months ago), one KNEW that his paper hub and spoke reporting system (he was the choke point) was hands down better than CRM and one was interested in learning more but couldn't the CEO of the company to engage. I have several others that are deep into ACT! but don't like the price tag required for the potential to improve their bottom line. Selling CRM requires interaction with different company personnel and a budget of 5 - 10 K for proper installation and training. The majority of my present clients just aren't there yet.


  • 99.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 16:42
    Jeff, I completely agree with you. Sage must still deliver on the promise of CRM. So far it has not done this. I've done SalesLogix for 15 years. Dabbled with Sage CRM for a few. Messed with the old ACT! Link to pre-Framework MAS 90. That old ACT! Link had more useful functionality in its integration than anything Irvine has produced since. It was actually useful. Nothing since. Irvine simply hasn't understood what CRM integrated to ERP could be useful for. So they signed off on pretty much ""toy"" integrations. Limitations in Sage CRM itself didn't help, but mainly it was the integration. No multiple MAS Companies to CRM. No order entry without having MAS 90 SO open. No way to build queries in CRM based on customer history in MAS 90. And NO sympathy from Irvine about the customer effort required to switch from ACT! to Sage CRM. They are completely different user interfaces. Completely. Different. And when pointed out to them, I got deer-in-the-headlights-what-do-you-mean stares back. There are definitely product managers there who should have moved on years ago. No wonder your prospects stayed with ACT! or whatever they're already using. Why change if there's no payoff for the pain? For the past couple years they moved the product management for integrations OUT of Irvine, in BC. So maybe ... But I don't think even v5 integration will let you create a group in CRM based on customer history in ERP. So, you still can't set up CRM activities based on payment (colection calls) or sales history (marketing campaigns/call lists). @PeterWolf is that correct? And CRM is certainly sold into management that most of the people on this group don't interact with much. It is a completely different sales process. However, I do think there is an important differentiation between prospects and current Sage 100 customers. Prospects seem to be more interested in also integrating CRM, one way or the other. And I think the dynamic of dealing with that marketing need will also change the dynamic towards CRM interest in current Sage 100 customers. So I don't think they're crazy for talking it up. But like so many of the changes they've rolled out in the past 9 months, this runs the danger of over promising and under delivering.


  • 100.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 18:35
    I'm mostly interested in Sage CRM.COM integration. I think expecting the channel to pick up and manage on-premises implementation of Sage CRM is brain dead and will never happen in material numbers. Telling a customer that they can be up and running with SageCRM.COM within a few hours - is a win.


  • 101.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 18:52
    1. It's now called Sage CRM Cloud. 2. No customer should be up and running on CRM within a few hours any more than they should be up and running on ERP in a few hours. It's guaranteed to fail if the client is sold that approach. I have lots of Sage CRM Cloud customers who complain all the time but don't want to spend the $$$ to implement properly. They think it's a magic wand. 3. @JerryNorman - the Sage CRM - ERP links may be just ""ok"" but they are still the best game in town if you compare other CRM and ERP packages integration. Here's a thought: some of you enterprising folks can write up what you wish the integration would do and I will devote some of my developers' time in building it out and we can sell them with a juicy margin to the partner.


  • 102.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 19:18
    Peter if your logic were true QuickBooks and Intuit would be out of business.


  • 103.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 19:40
    Peter's mostly correct. Wayne, the ERP and CRM worlds really are different. And sales managers trying to setup CRM on their own are quite different from bookkeepers/CPA's setting up a COA, list of customers and vendors in Quickbooks. The latter is easy if know accounting principals. But there is not a GAAP for sales data. Unless the sales guys have set up ACT! or worked with salesforce, they have no clue. Even then, their knowledge isn't quite enough. A key part of the difference is that a significant % or salespeople really do have ADD. (Think about it -- it is one of the few trades where most of the work is simply short interchanges. It's one of the few places people with ADD can succeed.) Their ability to think through the process of even loading customers out of MAS 90 into CRM through the integration wizard is questionable. Peter, I don't know much about the capabilities of other ERP-CRM integrations. Sage's is par for the course? Ouch! Before we go do any custom work, I'd want to get a very clear picture about exactly where the full sData contract stands with both CRM (I'm pretty sure they're compliant) and Sage 100 ERP (probably half there?). That would be a huge game changer in terms of customizations. There are four main things needed to in integration to make it useful beyond just having CRM: - quote/order entry at a customer office - delivery status while in a customer office - payment/collection status remotely - using data in customer ERP activity to create actions in CRM. There are more. But those are things that make the fastest money for users.


  • 104.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 20:00
    I beg to differ but these go on far too long.


  • 105.  RE: Here's a timely announcement of an effective promo

    Posted 06-13-2012 21:11
    I like the diversity here...