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Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

Wayne Schulz

Wayne Schulz03-17-2017 08:51

Mark Chinsky

Mark Chinsky03-17-2017 11:18

  • 1.  Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:24
    Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c advanced. On multiple occasions they are running into issues running as a service but everything is fine when running as a logged in application. I'm requesting more details on whats not working, but has anyone else seen this?


  • 2.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:28
    There seems to be a magic number of tasks per server, and once you hit that magic number, you're better off running as a desktop application. I always heard that it was ~75 tasks, but I recently had a client with newer hardware have issues at like 40 tasks. Plus we seem to always have to check the Spawn Tasks if Sage is virtualized.


  • 3.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:29
    Years ago I remember it having to do with some kind of files handles issue with windows and services. I thought there might have been a registry tweak.


  • 4.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:33
    I have a Sage 100 2017.1 Perpetual where I have been researching an issue where user Sage 100 task windows close but NO error condition. They are not at the level where I think number of tasks impacts them and that also traditionally throws off error messages. In my end user's case they get no error. They will just be looking at a screen such as customer maintenance and suddenly that screen closes. This was also ongoing with Sage 100 2014 - both Advanced running as a service


  • 5.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:34
    Did the problem go away if you switched to application?


  • 6.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:51
    Yes


  • 7.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:56
    We saw something similar at another client. Make sure all powersave and sleep functions are turned off on the workstation.


  • 8.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:57
    Sorry, should have said that running as standalone resolved the issue. Have not yet tried running the server as an an application vs service. Lots of IT push back/conflict. I'm nearly positive this is something local but about to push it to Sage and prepare for the flame thrower.


  • 9.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 08:57
    re: power saver, holy water sprinkling, anti-virus - been trying since v2014.


  • 10.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 09:02
    What do you mean by 'running as standalone'?


  • 11.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 09:15
    I believe it has to do with Windows memory allocation to a service being more restricted (by default) as compared to an application. There should be a KB article with registry tweaks as an alternative to running in Application mode.


  • 12.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 09:37
    I think this is what Kevin is referring to -- https://goo.gl/r2ILQh


  • 13.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 09:46
    Task Widows Random Closing KB - https://goo.gl/C41Ubd


  • 14.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 09:48
    How to run Sage 100 Advanced in standalone (aka MAS90) mode - https://goo.gl/9kdQJD


  • 15.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-17-2017 11:18
    Thanks all. Let me try this


  • 16.  RE: Have clients moving from Sage 100 Standard to 100c

    Posted 03-18-2017 00:14
    Either you need to apply the registry edit for the services ""memory heap size allocation"" noted in KB article on (I know because I wrote the original article :-) OR the fact the service is running under the LocalSystem account (bad) instead of a domain account (good). If they report issue as ""X number of users are able to get in ok but then get timeout error / hanging opening a new screen"" then do the registry edit and don't forget to reboot server for it take effect.