Sage 100

Does anyone here have experience with the Sage 100 eBusiness Web Services Module?  We have a client interested in doing their own integration from their SalesForce.com to Sage 100, for configured sales orders.  My question is:  Other than assistance in installing this module, and providing the schema for data elements; do you believe we will need to provide any additional services?  

They already use ROI-InSynch, and for some reason, do not want to integrate this new process, with them; and instead want to go this direction.  Thoughts?  Comments?

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Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC
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Have a client that purchased Web Services to integrate a WooCommerce site, Web developer couldn't get it to work. I was able to confirm that it was install correctly. Developer didn't understanding API interface, which is poorly documented. They changed direction and went with ROI, which works flawlessly.

Huge learning curve for Web Services, if this is something they want to learn on their own and implement. This also isn't getting any love from Sage. Cost wise, if you factor in the time to learn Web Services, Cost for ROI might be less. Odd they want to add an additional component.

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Myron Stevenson
Consultant
Clearis Consulting, Inc
Duluth, MN
218-525-6720
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What Myron said.

The problem with facilitating the connection between the customer and eBusiness is that there's a perceived guarantee/warranty no matter how much they tell you they will manage the integration on their own.

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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 11:40
From: Myron Stevenson
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Have a client that purchased Web Services to integrate a WooCommerce site, Web developer couldn't get it to work. I was able to confirm that it was install correctly. Developer didn't understanding API interface, which is poorly documented. They changed direction and went with ROI, which works flawlessly.

Huge learning curve for Web Services, if this is something they want to learn on their own and implement. This also isn't getting any love from Sage. Cost wise, if you factor in the time to learn Web Services, Cost for ROI might be less. Odd they want to add an additional component.

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Myron Stevenson
Consultant
Clearis Consulting, Inc
Duluth, MN
218-525-6720
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​Appreciate both of your responses.  I am meeting with them today and will try and figure out why they want to go this direction. Thank you @Myron Stevenson and @Wayne Schulz​​

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Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:07
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

What Myron said.

The problem with facilitating the connection between the customer and eBusiness is that there's a perceived guarantee/warranty no matter how much they tell you they will manage the integration on their own.

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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 11:40
From: Myron Stevenson
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Have a client that purchased Web Services to integrate a WooCommerce site, Web developer couldn't get it to work. I was able to confirm that it was install correctly. Developer didn't understanding API interface, which is poorly documented. They changed direction and went with ROI, which works flawlessly.

Huge learning curve for Web Services, if this is something they want to learn on their own and implement. This also isn't getting any love from Sage. Cost wise, if you factor in the time to learn Web Services, Cost for ROI might be less. Odd they want to add an additional component.

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Myron Stevenson
Consultant
Clearis Consulting, Inc
Duluth, MN
218-525-6720

@Todd Martin may have some insight.​​

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Jeff Schwenk
FORMER 90M Board Member
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
540-221-4444
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:15
From: Madeline Stefanou
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

​Appreciate both of your responses.  I am meeting with them today and will try and figure out why they want to go this direction. Thank you @Myron Stevenson and @Wayne Schulz​​

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Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:07
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

What Myron said.

The problem with facilitating the connection between the customer and eBusiness is that there's a perceived guarantee/warranty no matter how much they tell you they will manage the integration on their own.

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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 11:40
From: Myron Stevenson
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Have a client that purchased Web Services to integrate a WooCommerce site, Web developer couldn't get it to work. I was able to confirm that it was install correctly. Developer didn't understanding API interface, which is poorly documented. They changed direction and went with ROI, which works flawlessly.

Huge learning curve for Web Services, if this is something they want to learn on their own and implement. This also isn't getting any love from Sage. Cost wise, if you factor in the time to learn Web Services, Cost for ROI might be less. Odd they want to add an additional component.

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Myron Stevenson
Consultant
Clearis Consulting, Inc
Duluth, MN
218-525-6720

Key here is that there are no plans for Sage to improve the Web Services module. It is limited to what it can do. Most programmers seem to have an issue with it since there isn't a lot (or any) real documentation about it. This is why we created our SDE product. Programmers didn't have to figure out how to build an order, they would just send us the info and we would do all the heavy lifting.

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Todd Martin - President
MBA Business Software (https://www.mbabsi.com)
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 13:28
From: Jeff Schwenk
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

@Todd Martin may have some insight.​​

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Jeff Schwenk
FORMER 90M Board Member
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
540-221-4444
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:15
From: Madeline Stefanou
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

​Appreciate both of your responses.  I am meeting with them today and will try and figure out why they want to go this direction. Thank you @Myron Stevenson and @Wayne Schulz​​

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Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:07
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

What Myron said.

The problem with facilitating the connection between the customer and eBusiness is that there's a perceived guarantee/warranty no matter how much they tell you they will manage the integration on their own.

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Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 11:40
From: Myron Stevenson
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Have a client that purchased Web Services to integrate a WooCommerce site, Web developer couldn't get it to work. I was able to confirm that it was install correctly. Developer didn't understanding API interface, which is poorly documented. They changed direction and went with ROI, which works flawlessly.

Huge learning curve for Web Services, if this is something they want to learn on their own and implement. This also isn't getting any love from Sage. Cost wise, if you factor in the time to learn Web Services, Cost for ROI might be less. Odd they want to add an additional component.

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Myron Stevenson
Consultant
Clearis Consulting, Inc
Duluth, MN
218-525-6720

I take it you did look over the webServices.PDF in the documents folder. It does have some programming reference there. You can see if their programmer wants to dive into it or not.

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Todd Martin - President
MBA Business Software (https://www.mbabsi.com)
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 15:11
From: Todd Martin
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Key here is that there are no plans for Sage to improve the Web Services module. It is limited to what it can do. Most programmers seem to have an issue with it since there isn't a lot (or any) real documentation about it. This is why we created our SDE product. Programmers didn't have to figure out how to build an order, they would just send us the info and we would do all the heavy lifting.

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Todd Martin - President
MBA Business Software (https://www.mbabsi.com)
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 13:28
From: Jeff Schwenk
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

@Todd Martin may have some insight.​​

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Jeff Schwenk
FORMER 90M Board Member
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
540-221-4444


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:15
From: Madeline Stefanou
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

​Appreciate both of your responses.  I am meeting with them today and will try and figure out why they want to go this direction. Thank you @Myron Stevenson and @Wayne Schulz​​

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Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:07
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

What Myron said.

The problem with facilitating the connection between the customer and eBusiness is that there's a perceived guarantee/warranty no matter how much they tell you they will manage the integration on their own.

------------------------------
Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 11:40
From: Myron Stevenson
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Have a client that purchased Web Services to integrate a WooCommerce site, Web developer couldn't get it to work. I was able to confirm that it was install correctly. Developer didn't understanding API interface, which is poorly documented. They changed direction and went with ROI, which works flawlessly.

Huge learning curve for Web Services, if this is something they want to learn on their own and implement. This also isn't getting any love from Sage. Cost wise, if you factor in the time to learn Web Services, Cost for ROI might be less. Odd they want to add an additional component.

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Myron Stevenson
Consultant
Clearis Consulting, Inc
Duluth, MN
218-525-6720

​thanks @Todd Martin.  yes, I found that in the install DVD, and another longer document on Sage's knowledgebase portal.  I am thinking it will not be enough information for them, but I may be wrong.  Let's see what they think after the new year.  And I may reach out to you for some consulting if you have an idea and the experience on how to help this client. 

Their main reason is:  1) they want the orders in Sage 100 "almost immediately'.  Waiting 15-minutes for ROI was not acceptable. ​

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Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 16:55
From: Todd Martin
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

I take it you did look over the webServices.PDF in the documents folder. It does have some programming reference there. You can see if their programmer wants to dive into it or not.

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Todd Martin - President
MBA Business Software (https://www.mbabsi.com)
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 15:11
From: Todd Martin
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Key here is that there are no plans for Sage to improve the Web Services module. It is limited to what it can do. Most programmers seem to have an issue with it since there isn't a lot (or any) real documentation about it. This is why we created our SDE product. Programmers didn't have to figure out how to build an order, they would just send us the info and we would do all the heavy lifting.

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Todd Martin - President
MBA Business Software (https://www.mbabsi.com)


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 13:28
From: Jeff Schwenk
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

@Todd Martin may have some insight.​​

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Jeff Schwenk
FORMER 90M Board Member
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
540-221-4444


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:15
From: Madeline Stefanou
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

​Appreciate both of your responses.  I am meeting with them today and will try and figure out why they want to go this direction. Thank you @Myron Stevenson and @Wayne Schulz​​

------------------------------
Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:07
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

What Myron said.

The problem with facilitating the connection between the customer and eBusiness is that there's a perceived guarantee/warranty no matter how much they tell you they will manage the integration on their own.

------------------------------
Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 11:40
From: Myron Stevenson
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Have a client that purchased Web Services to integrate a WooCommerce site, Web developer couldn't get it to work. I was able to confirm that it was install correctly. Developer didn't understanding API interface, which is poorly documented. They changed direction and went with ROI, which works flawlessly.

Huge learning curve for Web Services, if this is something they want to learn on their own and implement. This also isn't getting any love from Sage. Cost wise, if you factor in the time to learn Web Services, Cost for ROI might be less. Odd they want to add an additional component.

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Myron Stevenson
Consultant
Clearis Consulting, Inc
Duluth, MN
218-525-6720

@Todd Martin, can you tell me a little about the "SDE" Product, you referenced above?   ​If you can email me directly that would be great.  MStefanou@RKLeSolutions.com

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Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 15:11
From: Todd Martin
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Key here is that there are no plans for Sage to improve the Web Services module. It is limited to what it can do. Most programmers seem to have an issue with it since there isn't a lot (or any) real documentation about it. This is why we created our SDE product. Programmers didn't have to figure out how to build an order, they would just send us the info and we would do all the heavy lifting.

------------------------------
Todd Martin - President
MBA Business Software (https://www.mbabsi.com)
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 13:28
From: Jeff Schwenk
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

@Todd Martin may have some insight.​​

------------------------------
Jeff Schwenk
FORMER 90M Board Member
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
540-221-4444


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:15
From: Madeline Stefanou
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

​Appreciate both of your responses.  I am meeting with them today and will try and figure out why they want to go this direction. Thank you @Myron Stevenson and @Wayne Schulz​​

------------------------------
Madeline Stefanou
RKL eSolutions, LLC


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 12:07
From: Wayne Schulz
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

What Myron said.

The problem with facilitating the connection between the customer and eBusiness is that there's a perceived guarantee/warranty no matter how much they tell you they will manage the integration on their own.

------------------------------
Wayne Schulz - Schulz Consulting - 860-516-8990


Original Message:
Sent: 12-30-2019 11:40
From: Myron Stevenson
Subject: eBusiness WebServices

Have a client that purchased Web Services to integrate a WooCommerce site, Web developer couldn't get it to work. I was able to confirm that it was install correctly. Developer didn't understanding API interface, which is poorly documented. They changed direction and went with ROI, which works flawlessly.

Huge learning curve for Web Services, if this is something they want to learn on their own and implement. This also isn't getting any love from Sage. Cost wise, if you factor in the time to learn Web Services, Cost for ROI might be less. Odd they want to add an additional component.

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Myron Stevenson
Consultant
Clearis Consulting, Inc
Duluth, MN
218-525-6720