Sage 100

Library Master, Main, Company Maintenance, Convert button - What's the purpose of the "Convert SAP Crystal reports" and the "Update Custom Office panels to current level" check boxes?  I always check these boxes, and before the boxes existed I always used the previous methods of converting Crystal reports and updating the Custom Office panels.   In what situation would someone converting data not want to do these two steps?

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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When you had already converted the reports and all you needed to convert was data?

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Moira Goggin
Executive Director
90 Minds, Inc.
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Possibly.  I suggest simplifying the UI by removing the check boxes and automatically converting the Crystal reports and updating the custom office panels.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:41
From: Moira Goggin
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

When you had already converted the reports and all you needed to convert was data?

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Moira Goggin
Executive Director
90 Minds, Inc.
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In my experience it doesn't always work (so I still do both steps manually).  Reports in various places are sometimes skipped... I think it relies on the Sage table data, instead of scanning the directories (the way mascrcw.exe works) so manually copied report settings / forms won't be converted by this kind of upgrade report conversion.

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Kevin Moyes
Technical Systems Analyst
Munjal White Consulting Co.
Toronto ON
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:46
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

Possibly.  I suggest simplifying the UI by removing the check boxes and automatically converting the Crystal reports and updating the custom office panels.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:41
From: Moira Goggin
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

When you had already converted the reports and all you needed to convert was data?

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Moira Goggin
Executive Director
90 Minds, Inc.

IMHO it never really works.

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Beth Bowers
Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
Tennessee Software Solutions
269-445-1625
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:50
From: Kevin Moyes
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

In my experience it doesn't always work (so I still do both steps manually).  Reports in various places are sometimes skipped... I think it relies on the Sage table data, instead of scanning the directories (the way mascrcw.exe works) so manually copied report settings / forms won't be converted by this kind of upgrade report conversion.

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Kevin Moyes
Technical Systems Analyst
Munjal White Consulting Co.
Toronto ON
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:46
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

Possibly.  I suggest simplifying the UI by removing the check boxes and automatically converting the Crystal reports and updating the custom office panels.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary


Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:41
From: Moira Goggin
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

When you had already converted the reports and all you needed to convert was data?

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Moira Goggin
Executive Director
90 Minds, Inc.

Good idea, poor implementation.  There is at least one other post on this topic (mine) originating when this "feature" was released.  As I recall, the feedback was that you had to do ALL companies in order to run the second two options.  I tried on several conversions, gave up the ghost.  Maybe Sage can work on RMA enhancements next.....

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Jeff Schwenk
FORMER 90M Board Member
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
540-221-4444
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 17:20
From: Beth Bowers
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

IMHO it never really works.

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Beth Bowers
Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
Tennessee Software Solutions
269-445-1625
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:50
From: Kevin Moyes
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

In my experience it doesn't always work (so I still do both steps manually).  Reports in various places are sometimes skipped... I think it relies on the Sage table data, instead of scanning the directories (the way mascrcw.exe works) so manually copied report settings / forms won't be converted by this kind of upgrade report conversion.

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Kevin Moyes
Technical Systems Analyst
Munjal White Consulting Co.
Toronto ON


Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:46
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

Possibly.  I suggest simplifying the UI by removing the check boxes and automatically converting the Crystal reports and updating the custom office panels.

------------------------------
Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary


Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:41
From: Moira Goggin
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

When you had already converted the reports and all you needed to convert was data?

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Moira Goggin
Executive Director
90 Minds, Inc.

If it doesn't work then it is even more persuasive an argument to remove the check boxes from the convert data screen.  If reports and screen customization always need to be converted, then either bake in the routines (that work) to convert, or remove the check boxes and require the tasks be performed manually.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:50
From: Kevin Moyes
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

In my experience it doesn't always work (so I still do both steps manually).  Reports in various places are sometimes skipped... I think it relies on the Sage table data, instead of scanning the directories (the way mascrcw.exe works) so manually copied report settings / forms won't be converted by this kind of upgrade report conversion.

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Kevin Moyes
Technical Systems Analyst
Munjal White Consulting Co.
Toronto ON
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:46
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

Possibly.  I suggest simplifying the UI by removing the check boxes and automatically converting the Crystal reports and updating the custom office panels.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary


Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:41
From: Moira Goggin
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

When you had already converted the reports and all you needed to convert was data?

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Moira Goggin
Executive Director
90 Minds, Inc.

Oh, I am sure it works in whatever small test environment that Sage used.  Problem is that no one here is quite sure what the steps are to replicate the test environment results.  Like many things Sage, it is a mystery that only the shadow knows.  The road to hades is paved with good intentions.  Sometimes intentions just don't cut it.

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Jeff Schwenk
FORMER 90M Board Member
Bottomline Software, Inc.
Waynesboro VA
540-221-4444
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-15-2020 08:50
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

If it doesn't work then it is even more persuasive an argument to remove the check boxes from the convert data screen.  If reports and screen customization always need to be converted, then either bake in the routines (that work) to convert, or remove the check boxes and require the tasks be performed manually.

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Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:50
From: Kevin Moyes
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

In my experience it doesn't always work (so I still do both steps manually).  Reports in various places are sometimes skipped... I think it relies on the Sage table data, instead of scanning the directories (the way mascrcw.exe works) so manually copied report settings / forms won't be converted by this kind of upgrade report conversion.

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Kevin Moyes
Technical Systems Analyst
Munjal White Consulting Co.
Toronto ON


Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:46
From: Doug Higgs
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

Possibly.  I suggest simplifying the UI by removing the check boxes and automatically converting the Crystal reports and updating the custom office panels.

------------------------------
Doug Higgs
Midwest Commerce Solutions, Inc
(312) 315-0960
Assistant to the Traveling Secretary


Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 16:41
From: Moira Goggin
Subject: Data Conversion Check Boxes

When you had already converted the reports and all you needed to convert was data?

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Moira Goggin
Executive Director
90 Minds, Inc.