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  • 1.  ARWAR4 - Sage Feedback please comment today, thanks.

    Posted 04-17-2020 15:51
    Sage took the ARWAR4 Payments Today issue to a brain storming session.  Here are the updates and questions:

    • We will re-write the existing ARWAR4, so that it can be setup as a scheduled task in Task Scheduler, yet can remain to be run as is.
    • We will NOT be putting a button on the Cash Receipts screens for users to press to recalculate the flag.
    • We will automatically when invoice is entered or paid, try to match up the current PaymentsToday to the accumulation of entries in Cash Receipts (and AP from AR Clearing)

    Question for 90minds:

    We are planning to automatically check if the PaymentsToday amount in AR_OpenInvoice matches the amounts currently in Cash Receipts (and AP from AR Clearing) if the amount in cash receipts differs from the open invoice flag, would you prefer?

    A) Automatically fix PaymentsToday flag to what is currently in Cash Receipts (and AP from AR Clearing)
    --OR-
    B) Prompt the user with something that states something like: "Current posted amounts in Cash Receipts does not match records payments today in the Open Invoices table. Do you wish to recalculate?"
    If B) Do you think a security event would be necessary so that this prompt only occurs for certain roles?

    **Note: Keep in mind that there are scenarios that exist where we won't be able to 100% accurately accumulate current payments in cash receipts, due to the fact that some of the entries may be in memory still while cash receipts is in use, so won't be accessible to outside tasks. 

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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 2.  RE: ARWAR4 - Sage Feedback please comment today, thanks.

    Posted 04-17-2020 16:12
    So taking a step back - what exactly is the purpose of the Paid Today field?  Yes, it can tell you if you're paying something twice in the same session IF you've already accepted the first entry, but if two people are entering at the same time it does you no good anyway, so....  Is there a really huge requirement I'm missing?  If you didn't even use the field, would the sky fall?  Would there be human sacrifices, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria?

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Beth Bowers
    269-445-1625
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  • 3.  RE: ARWAR4 - Sage Feedback please comment today, thanks.

    Posted 04-20-2020 13:25
    That is an excellent question.  Why is there a 'payments today' flag in AR?

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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 4.  RE: ARWAR4 - Sage Feedback please comment today, thanks.

    Posted 04-20-2020 19:46
    @Beth Bowers I heard back from Elliott who answered you question.  Before I post that, Sage needs us to specify our preference - please vote option A or B @Jeff Fiddelman  @Bill Pfahnl @Andrew Hagenbach @Madeline Stefanou​​​​​​​​

    A) Automatically fix PaymentsToday flag to what is currently in Cash Receipts (and AP from AR Clearing)
    --OR-
    B) Prompt the user with something that states something like: "Current posted amounts in Cash Receipts does not match records payments today in the Open Invoices table. Do you wish to recalculate?"
    If B) Do you think a security event would be necessary so that this prompt only occurs for certain roles?

    Here's the answer to why is there a Payments Today Flag:
    • The purpose of the PaymentsToday field in the AR Open Invoice table is to keep track of payments that are currently being applied in Cash Receipts, but have not been updated. This will include Payments being made where the cash receipt has not yet been accepted either. Meaning that the entry is still being worked on, and the detail is still in memory, but we commit the amount in the PaymentsToday. Remember, that while you are entering Cash Receipts (or any of our data entries), that the detail lines are not physically written to a table until the "Accept" button is pressed. Until that point they are only in memory, but we record the payment in the PaymentsToday so that if a subsequent entry is made for the invoice, it will have the up to date balance.

    • We realize that this flag is getting out of sync with actual entries against the invoice, and we have done a lot of research to try to resolve this, but could not find a program logic issue, but there are outside influences that could cause this. (ex – DFDM, Reinitialize Files, some sort of session drop of a workstation, customizations, custom modifications, etc.)

    • It is our policy to not remove fields from tables, primarily because we have a flexible solution and do not know who is relying on the amount being updated in the A/R Open Invoice table. Customers/Partners could be using the field for reporting or customizations that we aren't aware of, so we will retain this field.

    **Note: Keep in mind that there are scenarios that exist where we won't be able to 100% accurately accumulate current payments in cash receipts, due to the fact that some of the entries may be in memory still while cash receipts is in use, so won't be accessible to outside tasks. I would think these scenarios are very low occurrence, but could happen.





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    Moira Goggin
    Executive Director
    90 Minds, Inc.
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  • 5.  RE: ARWAR4 - Sage Feedback please comment today, thanks.

    Posted 04-21-2020 06:48
    (A)

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    Beth Bowers
    Mom to Samson, Peanut, ChiChi, Canton, Cagney and Daisy (NO Oxford comma - shriek!)
    Beth Bowers
    269-445-1625
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  • 6.  RE: ARWAR4 - Sage Feedback please comment today, thanks.

    Posted 04-21-2020 08:21
    A

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    Jeff Fiddelman
    Exeplex, LLC
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  • 7.  RE: ARWAR4 - Sage Feedback please comment today, thanks.

    Posted 04-21-2020 09:31
    ​My vote is "A".

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    Madeline Stefanou
    RKL eSolutions, LLC
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  • 8.  RE: ARWAR4 - Sage Feedback please comment today, thanks.

    Posted 04-21-2020 11:03
    A

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    Bill Pfahnl
    Nims & Associates
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