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  • 1.  Anyone have access to the Bob Scott newsletter and

    Posted 05-29-2012 09:55
    Anyone have access to the Bob Scott newsletter and can copy in the latest? http://bit.ly/Kql6kB @RobertWood


  • 2.  RE: Anyone have access to the Bob Scott newsletter and

    Posted 05-29-2012 13:59
    Nothing earth shattering or giving much away.


  • 3.  RE: Anyone have access to the Bob Scott newsletter and

    Posted 05-29-2012 13:59
    It could be just enough to take this publication's recent article ""Flight of the Sage VARs"" and couple that with the blistering analysis Dennis Howlett made about Sage's financials on ZDNet last month. But it's hard to hear anything good right now from Sage resellers, including long-time loyalists, about what the company is doing. Reports are popping up about Sage undercutting VARs via direct sales and that many channel benefits are gone. Howlett's analysis was Sage has lost a lot of customers. And that means that maintenance income will inevitably shrink if they aren't replaced. Meanwhile, every vendor signing new resellers is having success at Sage's expense, including AccountMate, whose channel's reliance on extensive modifications is a much different than the Sage model. That's on top of high-profile channel wins by NetSuite and SugarCRM and the reports that Sage VARs were numerous at the recent Infor and Epicor conferences. (Although with Epicor buying its largest VAR, I think I'd be very cautious there). Resellers complain they don't know anyone at Sage anymore and cannot get information. Add that on to product line that lacks integration and a clear path and an invisible top management focused on increasing maintenance revenue But ultimately the big problem is the reliance on maintenance. NetSuite says the cloud model will kill the maintenance model as a reliable revenue stream. I think it's correct.


  • 4.  RE: Anyone have access to the Bob Scott newsletter and

    Posted 05-29-2012 14:10
    Thanks. Not a rosy picture.


  • 5.  RE: Anyone have access to the Bob Scott newsletter and

    Posted 05-30-2012 07:33
    Good analysis @RobertWood. I was just speaking with someone yesterday that I hadn't spoken to in 3 months. Their comment was ""Wow - what happened? You used to always be able to find something positive to say about Sage."" I explained that the new situation is that we are no longer partners so my worldview is still updating. My current view of the situation is that we are mice in the cage with an elephant. The elephant is a fucking pig and drops lots of great scraps. If we are nimble enough and smart enough, we can run around, feed well and grab scraps to stock away for our future. But the elephant basically doesn't even know, nor care, that we are there. And the elephant is prone to spasmodic episodes where he thrashes about so we better watch out.


  • 6.  RE: Anyone have access to the Bob Scott newsletter and

    Posted 05-30-2012 07:36
    Let me paraphrase: Plan your relationship with Sage as one where you will not earn margin. If that's not an appropriate business model -- pull the rip cord. I also recommend you plan similarly for all other publishers. Welcome to SaaS. If you don't have services to add to the mix - you are generally not needed.


  • 7.  RE: Anyone have access to the Bob Scott newsletter and

    Posted 05-30-2012 13:07
    Did Doug Deane ever get a response from Sage to his analysis of the Subscription pay back inequity between Sage and the Dealer?